vr6 in to a mk2

[chunk]

is it possible to put a vr6 in to a mk2 gti? [:D],just a thought.
if so how much can u pick an engine up for and will i need to change gear box and loom .

cheers chunk [:)]

[Russ_JDUB]

Have a look here (http://www.clubgti.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63&PN=1) mate. Quite a bit of useful info that may help you out.

[Crispy 8V]

Check out the engines Frequently Asked Questions for details of the conversion

as of prices I've seen them from £400 (minus the Gearbox)
hopefully some one else will give you an idea on prices [LOL]

[chunk]

cheers russ appreciat this its goin to help alot if i go ahead with it, i c we have somthin in comin my 8v is oak green just had a respray it needed it

cheers chunk [:D]

[chunk]

ya would be good to c how much of a hole this is goin to put in my pocket...
[LOL]
cheers lads [:D]

[mac365]

used to have one. it was the worst purchase of my life, The engine is
awesome IF you can get it to run correctly but high mileage engines
have SERIOUSLY expensive problems with the timing chain
tensioners and get head gasket leaks which corrode the block. Mine
never ran right and problems are hard to trace especially when the
engines been bunged into a car that was never designed for it;
leading to lots of electrical problems.

My advice is go for a tuned 2.0L 16v as its hard to get much more
than standard power from the vr6 anyway and they are nose heavy
and the gearings very high on the vr6 - leading to bad handling and
slower acceleration than expected. They sound great but the fuel
consumption is great as well !

[Russ_JDUB]

Mk2 VR6 - nose heavy - leading to bad handling

Mate, you've opened up a can of worms [LOL]

[alby]

used to have one. it was the worst purchase of my life, The engine is
awesome IF you can get it to run correctly but high mileage engines
have SERIOUSLY expensive problems with the timing chain
tensioners and get head gasket leaks which corrode the block. Mine
never ran right and problems are hard to trace especially when the
engines been bunged into a car that was never designed for it;
leading to lots of electrical problems.

My advice is go for a tuned 2.0L 16v as its hard to get much more
than standard power from the vr6 anyway and they are nose heavy
and the gearings very high on the vr6 - leading to bad handling and
slower acceleration than expected. They sound great but the fuel
consumption is great as well !


crap,crap,err, crap, crap and oh yeah,crap

[vrbanana]

problems are hard to trace especially when the
engines been bunged into a car that was never designed for it;
leading to lots of electrical problems.

its hard to get much more
than standard power from the vr6 anyway and they are nose heavy
and the gearings very high on the vr6 - leading to bad handling and
slower acceleration than expected. They sound great but the fuel
consumption is great as well !

what a crock of ****[:x] [:x] [:x] [:x] [:x] [:x] [:x] [:x]



Edited by: motorhead

[GVK]

[LOL]

normal service resumed [:D]

[vrbanana]

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No wonder there’s only a small selection of emotions, I think the w@nker one would wear out in a week[:N:]

[vrbanana]

[LOL]

normal service resumed [:D]

Gary for f*cks sake get off that fence[LOL] [LOL]

[GVK]

All we need is phatty to come on here now [LOL]

[GVK]

No wonder there’s only a small selection of emotions, I think the w@nker one would wear out in a week[:N:]

Like this one?
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[Valver]

All we need is phatty to come on here now [LOL]

LOL - I was just gonna say that!! [LOL] [;)]

[Dex]

i sense some people aren't convinced about the *mk2 vr's are crap, slow, and don't handle* thing then?

[Chris H]

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No wonder there’s only a small selection of emotions, I think the w@nker one would wear out in a week[:N:]

[LOL]

[davidwort]

i sense some people aren't convinced about the *mk2 vr's are crap, slow, and don't handle* thing then?

OK if you only wan't to go in a straight line [LOL] , even the Corrado VR6 is nose heavy and worse handling than the 4 cylinder versions, the VR6 lump is 100kg heavier and sits further forward for gods sake!

David.

[kev-morris]

isnt the corrado vr6 regarded as one of the best handling front wheel drive cars though?

[scos]

I certainly read in Autocar years ago that the Corrado VR6 was regarded as "one of the best front wheel drive cars of all time" - not sure if that refers to the handling though or just as a car overall.

[davidwort]

isnt the corrado vr6 regarded as one of the best handling front wheel drive cars though?
yep, it's great if the chassis is in good condition, dampers, bushings etc.., I've had one for 7 years, but the VR6 version is nose heavy compared to the 4 cylinder versions, I've tried them, and in wet or dry conditions the 4cyl ones are much better on the twisty bits despite the mk3 style plus axle of the VR. Don't forget the Corrado is based on the mk2 with passat rear passive steer bushings and was never designed for such a heavy engine.

David.

[Baj MK2 VR]

problems are hard to trace especially when the
engines been bunged into a car that was never designed for it;
leading to lots of electrical problems.

its hard to get much more
than standard power from the vr6 anyway and they are nose heavy
and the gearings very high on the vr6 - leading to bad handling and
slower acceleration than expected. They sound great but the fuel
consumption is great as well !

what a crock of ****[:x] [:x] [:x] [:x] [:x] [:x] [:x] [:x]




I love mine. Handling is fine if you set it up right, a little nose heavy but fine when you learn how to drive it. maintanence is a little expencive but it is worth it all the way. mine runs fine.
diagnostics is easy with a VAG.com or similar.
and it sounds awsome.
the engine bolts straight in with little work.

Do it... [:Y:]

[S1MMA]

even the Corrado VR6 is nose heavy and worse handling than the 4 cylinder versions

no doubt the VR6 carries more weight in the front, but with the plus suspension it will be setup different to the 4 cylinder versions (springs/dampers/etc...). I have never seen/read anywhere that the 4 cylinder corrado's are regarded as one of the best handling FWD cars ever, its always the VR6 which is mentioned. Could be the plus suspension and settings, or could be that the 4 cylinder versions are just too damn slow to be exiting, even though they are a little less nose heavy!

I have driven a low milage 2.0l 16v corrado, and it was a great car, but they're not that quick, and didnt seem something special (unlike the VR6).

[chunk]

thanx for the hellp huys but i think i might stick with me 8v engine for now seems a lot of work plus the funds are a bit low

cheers chunk [:D]

[alby]

bloody timewasters [:x] [;)] [LOL]

[mac365]

To clarify I liked my vr6 mk2 and it was *potentially* v fast and the
handling was ok but I could never get it to run at full power due to
an unrepairable gasket leak which probably required a new engine. It
also would never pass the mot due to the lambda senser not
working for some reason. The motronic system and all those
expensive sensors can obviously go on the blink - expensive. Dont
know where to start on all the other engine problems.

So to the person that said they don't suffer head gasket leaks and
block corrosion - thats rubbish !! That could have been crap
maintainance by the other owner but ive heard its common.

More seriously, I think 100,000miles too low a mileage to have to
remove the engine and gearbox etc to replace worn timing chain
tensioners which could destroy the engine if not replaced. Whats
that going to cost, £800 ?? All i'm saying is if you dont have the
finances or diy experience to get them worked on correctly they are
a total nightmare. There must be some bodged up ones running
around judging by the state of mine when I bought it, mainly due to
someone taking some short cuts in the conversion which I had to
pay for. Trouble is only experience with them can tell you what the
problems can be.

I heard vw mechanics called the vr6 "the lemon" due to being a PITA
to work on. Oh dear have I opened up another can of worms ?

[vrbanana]

i sense some people aren't convinced about the *mk2 vr's are crap, slow, and don't handle* thing then?

OK if you only wan't to go in a straight line [LOL] , even the Corrado VR6 is nose heavy and worse handling than the 4 cylinder versions, the VR6 lump is 100kg heavier and sits further forward for gods sake!

David.
spoken like a 16v owner who can’t afford a proper Corrado


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Yep it works Gary[LOL] [LOL] [LOL]

[chunk]

ya i agree i think i need a bit more experiance for this kind of a job so i think im goin to give it a miss ,i apologise if iv waisted any ones time its just good to get other peoples veiws on the matter

cheers to all... [:D]
chunk
ps does eney one know how to get more umf out of an 8v
or am i openin up another can of worms [LOL]

[2TonCartoon]

..............

ps does eney one know how to get more umf out of an 8v
[LOL]

Yea, drop a VR in there [;)]

[chunk]

[:D] i thnk it is a defanet for the future once i gett a bit more experiance and funds [:D]

[Dex]

or swap it for a 16v...

[chunk]

i prefer my 8v really like the torqu [:D] alltho i havent driven a 16v yet so il give it a go is there much difference in performance

[goodridge]

The VR6 engine is really not that bad to work on. It looks like a
massive lump, but once you start stripping it down its all pretty
straightforward if a little time consuming. At the end of the day if you
want performance you've got to pay for it! Want cheap motoring? Buy a
1.1 fiesta![LOL]

Edited by: goodridge

[chunk]

[LOL] ya i think il die before i own a fiesta, im keepin a look out on ebay to c what comes up engine wise, so hopefully i can try and pick up a bargain [:D]

cheers
chunk

[Tubthumped]

i prefer my 8v really like the torqu [:D] alltho i havent driven a 16v yet so il give it a go is there much difference in performance


16v has the same torque at low revs and more higher up.

[chunk]

whats involved in dropin a lump in do u have to do much with the electrics or is it basicly the same