Recommend a 16v flowed head?

Discussion in '16-valve' started by ewang3, May 7, 2004.

  1. ewang3 Forum Member

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    Stealth have them for 620.. or C&R do a stage 1 for 560??

    Anyone know anywhere else or had any experience with
    these?

    cheers
     
  2. vw_singh Events Team Paid Member

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    Grant motorsport, if you can get hold of him
     
  3. jc.. Forum Member

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    As before....
    Off the shelf headwork is both expensive and not entirely good value.
    If you have a head already or can afford time without the car then get it done by a recommended local engineer.
    Porting and polishing is the only aspect that proven race preparation experience will benefit you.
    There are plenty of smaller garages that have been experimenting with golf 16/8v headwork and you won't be losing 650 on a simple porting job.
    Do some homework, ask around. Where do you live?
     
  4. ewang3 Forum Member

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    Thanks yet again jc..

    I'm based in the South West (Bristol/S Wales).. I'm not in a
    major rush to get her back on the road and I'd rather pay
    someone to work on my original head!

    I've done a few head swaps before but not a multi valve.. bit
    nervous about the whole hydraulic tappet set-up tbh[:$]
     
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    bit nervous about the whole hydraulic tappet set-up tbh

    Easier than mecanical tappets by a long way, fit and forget!
     
  6. GVK

    GVK Paid Member Paid Member

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    You'll probably find all these big names get theirs done by the same bloke anyway............. ;)





    Then double the price :lol:


    I bet if you go to a race meeting/sprint/hillclimb event and ask around who does decent head work you'll find someone who'll do a head a lot cheaper :)
    Edited by: G_V_K
     
  7. DEX

    Dex Paid Member Paid Member

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    or just send it to Bill Blydenstein...
     
  8. ianb Forum Member

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    The big names are all around the 600 mark

    Made a big difference to my 1.8 valver.....torque and power increases.

    With exhaust good set up and a 4 branch you should see about 170+

    Nice revvy power that won't break the bank

    Ian.
     
  9. madmk4 Forum Member

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    I wouldn't say use a TSR head personally, the quality of the work is there but the price is pretty damn high and there are betterly designs out there IMO.
     
  10. cordobabrendy Forum Member

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    or ask about at your next local meet, some vw enthusiasts do their own and for a decent wage might do yours! still less than tsr etc
     
  11. ewang3 Forum Member

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    Cheers for the info..

    Last year I had my MGB head machined to a stage 2 spec by a
    company in Oxford called Oselli.. they specialize in classic
    Porsche and Astin Martin manly.. made a massive difference..
    Gave them a call the other day on the off chance and turns out
    they've done quite a few Valvers (not unlike the k-series heads
    apparently).. So I dropped mine into them this morning for a
    make over [:D]

    I'll post some pics and figures when I get it back next week!
     
  12. GVK

    GVK Paid Member Paid Member

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    Sounds good, are they replacing valve guides etc?
     
  13. ianb Forum Member

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    Mad 20V......the heads as Gary has said previously and from my own knowledge is done by the same person

    AmD TSR BR Motorsport Stealth etc all use the same bloke and are all priced close to each other.

    There are no different variations on head work for the valver unless you are relying on a DIY approach.

    The head is the most important part on a valver so getting it right is a must.I wouldn't risk a unknown DIY approach especially for proven results and reliability.

    TSR were actually cheaper than AmD BR etc.

    Ian
     
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    Oselli........... now there's a name I haven't heard for a long time.
    I'd be more than happy letting them do any headwork, their work is excellent and they've been around for well over 20 years, you have nothing to worry about with them. :)
     
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    if you don't mind me asking-how much are they charging??

    looking into getting mine done but if its too much then i shan't bother.

    anyone heard of a company called QEP in brighton?
     
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    Oselli - very respected name - I would think you would have no problems at all - famed for more classic car tuning but highly capable IMO.

    Be very interested to hear how you get on / pricing etc

    Valvers are getting close to classic status anyhow....LOL...approaching 20yrs old

    Cheers

    Rob
     
  17. ewang3 Forum Member

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    Had a good chat about the 16v head with them.. there's not a
    great deal of 'porting' that can be done within the already well
    flowed chambers, other than knife edging the main vain and
    smoothing out any casting marks. Comparing it to a modern k-
    series head I could see what he meant!!

    They charge around 600 to fully clean up an MGF head to
    race spec, and the gains are big! But paying them to spend
    hours cutting out every little nik of a KR head is hardly worth it
    for such small gains!

    Initial costs for my head are 25 for a re-face, and then bringing
    it upto 300 to match all the inlets and outlets, triple angle all
    the valve seats and valves (this is where the biggest gains will
    be), clean up the chambers and then rebuild it. This also
    includes pressure testing, crack testing, vibration tank wash/
    degrease.. etc.

    They,re well worth a chat if you need any kind of machine work
    done to any level!

    Oselli
     
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    damn sounds like good value IMO, im taking a look :p
     
  19. Peter Forum Member

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    Sounds like a great deal Ewan, are you going for any more engine modifications as well?

    Pete
    Edited by: Peter
     
  20. jc.. Forum Member

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    300 for that work and a rebuilding it for you is a bargain! take his hand off before he changes his mind
     

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