Tacho driver wanted--- PROBLEM SOLVED

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    1.8T_mk2 Paid Member Paid Member

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    Hello chaps, just been trying to find a tacho driver wiring schematic to convert the standard 20v AGU signal into a standard mk2 clocks signal. I know you can buy these off the shelf but I would rather build it myself.

    Cheers

    Neil
     
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    what coil pack /s you running and ecu
     
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    I'm using an OE AGU ecu runing 3 pin coils. I've scoped the signal and its not what I expected. Is a 12v signal but only drops to 10v instead of dropping to 0v. I have saved the signal on my scope so I can up load it if needed.
     
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    Well, I just changed to the Corrado dash and cluster. Works directly! :lol:
     
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    Not really an option for me, [8(] I'm running one of these bad boys...

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    I've got it running though a CAN interface at the moment because it doesn't understand the OEM signal for rpm. It works but the rpm display is too slow to keep up with the actual rpm.
     
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    :thumbup: Liking the videos mate. Was that mk1 a diesel? How much smoke!! [:s]:lol:

    I can't remember off the top of my head the pin layout on the ecu but i'll have a look today and see whats what.

    As long as it's a 12v square signal it will work. I may have to use an injector or coil trigger but I didn't really want to do this as I've got the wirring there and just needs a tacho driver to make it work.
     
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    Yeah, that orange mk1 is a Diesel PD150.
    That cluster you have, has a digital input, right? If so, I would assume it's like the Corrado one.
    So, the information provided by the ECU should be OK for you.

    PS- I mentioned the VSS, but I don't know what I was thinking at the time. VSS is for the speedo... So, just check pin 6 from the ECU, and you should see the voltage. Maybe Autodata can help you on this?
     
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    Double checked the wiring today and as I thought, I am already using pin 6 but the signal is no good for the cluster. This was the reason for trying to build a tacho driver for mk2 clocks as the cluster would be able to understand the old school signal.

    Failing that I'll have to run another wire to the cyl. 1 coil trigger at the ecu (yet to check signal but should work)

    Any ideas for the driver anyone?
     
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    Cheers Ben, that is some good info :thumbup: but I dont think it will work as I only the one signal wire to play with for now. I might have to resort to cutting into the coil wires and trying the diode trick if all else fails though.

    This is the standard 20v tacho output from pin 6

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    and this is roughly what I need to convert it to (shown in red)...

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    Got a rough idea I think [:s] will be easier if someone can point in the right direction tho :thumbup:
     
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    This is what I was thinking, not sure on the current, but I'll investigate.

    I've got an old set of A3 clocks that I've taken apart and I found the transistors on the board but have yet to trace the signal to determin which is which.
     
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    I now have a working rev counter! :thumbup:

    I cant belive how easy things are when you know the answer :lol:

    I stripped out the A3 clocks and hot wired them so I could run them on the car, checked the signal off pin 6 and it had now changed to the 12v sqare wave that I was after [8(] This could mean only one thing, that there was not enough load on the circuit to bring it to earth!

    After quickly scrapping the now ruined A3 clocks, I fitted a 13K ohm resistor in there place dropped it to earth and job done! Took all of about an hour to fix and fit it up nicely. :thumbup:
     
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    Nicely done mate!! :thumbup:
     
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    Cheers dude! :thumbup:

    With this new found electrical mastery :lol: I'm now working on converting the speedo signal. Is a sine wave at the moment and needs changing to a square wave [8(] Managed to rob some bits off the A3 clocks which should sort it out fairly easily I hope.
     

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