guys ive bought a 95 mk3 16v abf in std spec and im looking on geting bout 200-220bhpout of it...what do u sugest?the car is my dayli driver
170 is quickly within reach, but we're really finding that the old 190/200 brake accesibilty is a myth, partly perpetuated by optimistic dynos. What's your budget?
what would you sugest?was thinking of head work/cams/induction/4-2-1 manifold/exaust/reprograming the ecu
Have a look at the work Ess Three has done on his 16v - probably a useful guide to what should be done and the likely costs.
a chip, exhaust and a trip to stealth or amd rolling road should do it 190 is probably the max with normal headwork, cams and the normal bolt ons.... but thats pretty expensive. you've brought the wrong car if you want any more than that without spending on forced induction search for essthree threads on ABF tuning. hes been there done that with back to back rolling road print outs on most mods... EDIT: Snap
thanks a lot guys! very helpfull!! had a vr6 turbo before..was frightenly fast but very very thyrsty for everyday use! turns out the kid i sold it to crushed it while racing an evo mr !dont know who won just want the 16v to keep up with the countless type r's we have here!thought of forced induction but havent looked ii to it a lot....
Ill be trying to make my new ABF'd mk2 keep up with a friends type r once iv sorted the brakes and gearbox, should be close since mine has kent cams and apparently a P+P head, his is stripped out though so I dont have a massive weight advantage. And also there is a massive increase in type r's round here aswell, I mean like atleast 10 cruising round town on the w/e, and a few out everynight.
Simple answer is yes you can get 200bhp from and ABF. Mine is on Dell 45s with massive comp & cams.... downside is the costs incurred getting there... Read this. http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=190724&highlight=tonnes+power
"Easily?" Having owned both I can speak from direct experience! A stripped out mk2 golf/jetta running a tweaked 2L 16v on k-jet will be very similar in a straight line to a bog standard integra. At higher speeds the ITR pulls clear thanks to superior aerodynamics...tested by myself and a friend on his private road A uk ITR makes closer to 175BHP than the quoted 187BHP too..less torque than the VW but an additional 1200rpm. Swings & roundabouts! ITR handles better and never goes wrong mind you To get a reliable 200BHP from an ABF would require a sympathetic rebuild with lightened and balanced bottom end. Higher compression and fruity cams fed by ITBs or carbs. Very possible but not without significant $$$$'s spent... With simple bolt-ons to a standard motor it will always fall short...
Yes very easily.An engine which was modded to get 170bhp in not the same with an engine which already has 170bhp stock.Much faster. I can speak from direct experience because in Cyprus we have from the very stock type-r's to very very strong ones(eg. type-r vs evo 8 MR=type-r wins) I don't know what you had but integras are 195bhp.. Standard kr vs integra type-r in 1/4 mile=integra being no more than a car distance in front Standard kr vs integra type-r in an uphill=integra no less than a car distance behind integra handles better? hahaha
