well just doing a little forum research into this what would i need to do to a 2ltr 16v to get 220-240hp on throttle bodies i have quite a few abf,9a and 6a engine knocking around just wanted some good interested comments and no i don't want 20vt boring nothing like good n/a engine for me now thanks this is next option if my first option full through[:^(]
Lightened/Balanced preferably steel 9A bottom end..(looking at 8000+rpm) Flowed head Schrick 276s minimum ITBs 4 branch Aftermarket management Suitable exhaust Very Deep Pockets
Do a search for RobT on the forum, he's had an engine built in Holland to a high spec. There's a thread in engine section called "THE 2 litre 16v thread", lots of links in there. http://www.clubgti.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52550&PN=1& TPN=1 Also, the 16v section on Vortex could be a handy source of info. http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?days=14&id=35 Edited by: GVK
chris mate my budget for the engine is min-4,500-8,000 max on engine spoke to many companies jd engineering wanted around 9k for 16vg60 grant motorsport can build me one i have heard malcolm ring is selling his 16valver itb engine through a mate so anything possiable but want something different than 20vt as it common as muck so gone back to n/a power that why i asked about mad20v engine
I think you'll be looking at a minimum of steel internals a knife edged custom light weight crank custom rods pistons a Schrick solid lifter head in combination with 304+ cams (Schricks)running to 8.5-9k oh and TB'S independant mapping and much more Ian
Hi IMO the main problem you are going to find is someone reliable who knows VW 16V's to build it for you - most of the bits are available relatively easily - but what bits to use..... The power you want is definately achievable with your budget and if you do this, I would have staged payments and the builder dont get most of the cash until you have dyno sheets to prove power / torque (and at this kind of money you should be able to dictate what shape of power curve you want (ish)) You are right on the edge of needing a steel crank or not - a stock forged crank is good for 8600rpm if in good condition and balance checked - 1200 extra if you need a steel one. A1 quality block - if any doubt at all, get a new one. Steel rods - loads of possibilities (arrow, eurospec, puter, carillo etc)- get some fairly light ones as some of them are for turbo engines are are much more than you will need Pistons - a compression hike would be useful - forged would be nice - loads of vendors (je, ross, accralite, wiseco etc). May need pockets for hot cams. If your not racing and capacity limited, 83.5mm gives a useful capacity hike. Fasteners and bearings - highest quality available throughout - arp bolts are good as are genuine VAG bearings Head - now then, big skill time - gas flowed (but how) maybe with bigger valves (valves from who and how much bigger). Solid lifter conversion (solid lifters from several vendors, arrow, schrick etc), machining for high lift cams may be needed Cams - lots of options - schrick are good but so are cat and newman - going to need a pretty wild set but this is where the skill and experience of the engine builder comes in, matching the cam spec to compression, porting, valve sizes etc - its the overall package that has to work in combination Ancillaries - a good oil pump / baffled sump / windage plate or dry sump Induction - TB's - various designs and sizes, you are going to need 45's as a minium, the bore dictates the type of power in combination with the other engine parts ECU - loads of options again, pick one where there is local experience to you as you will need a few remaps to get everything right Getting 240bhp out of a VW 16V isn't easy - but very doable. Your alternative to finding a builder, buying bits and hoping it all works is to buy an off the shelf engine, with dyno sheets to prove power. There are a few guys in europe where you can do this - and if your really serious, for 8K I'll get you one. Cheers Rob Edited by: RobT
