16v Cams

Discussion in '16-valve' started by bbsboy, May 5, 2005.

  1. bbsboy New Member

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    hello,

    I am looking to get the head ported on my 16v mk2 and instal cams to go allong with my 4branch, i need cams that will still allow me to drive the car everyday, what would you recomend?

    Cheers

    Steven
     
  2. chrismc Forum Junkie

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    If it is still an 1800cc (KR) then Id stick with the standard cams..or Schrick 260s as an absolute maximum. Kent 1602Rs are another set to consider

    Hotter cams are best left to increased capacity engines, where the reduction in low down torque is offset by the increased CC.

    A flowed head/4 branch alone should see your KR to 150+BHP no problem anyhow ;)
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  3. DuBDuDe Forum Member

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    Yeah listen to chris if u want to kep your everyday driveability id stick with std cams.
     
  4. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

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    Nah - get cams.

    They make it well fast...
     
  5. chrismc Forum Junkie

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    :lol:
     
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  7. bbsboy New Member

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    So everyone thinks for fast road use id be wiser sticking with the std cams or exhaust cam mod, and getting the head ported, also would i be wise changing the final drive or would that make it bad on motorway runs?

    cheers

    Steven
     
  8. chrismc Forum Junkie

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    Fit Slicks & unbolt everything bar the drivers seat & you have the fastest 16v in the world....


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  9. GVK

    GVK Paid Member Paid Member

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    Come on Chris, don't be sour everyone could've done just the same. [:v:] None of the rest moaned when they saw 2000 worth of throttle bodies on your car :lol::thumbup:;)
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  10. GVK

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    Yep, first things first get the car set up properly by someone who understands k-jet.

    Unfortunately the lower final drive will make motorway journeys a ball ache as at 80mph you will be doing around 5000rpm [xx(]

    That suggestion was more of a wind up (in jest I may add) on Tub's behalf to the guys on here with their lumpy Schrick sticks :lol:[:s]

    Check out the 16v feature in next month's Golf+ [8D]

    Our day at Bruntingthorpe
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  11. chrismc Forum Junkie

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    :lol:

    I agree! Slicks, Lower F.D & a Slimfast diet have been proven to do the job on a 16v ;)
     
  12. VWJ1M Forum Member

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    Slimfast diet = MK1 ;)
     
  13. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

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    Slicks - i still think wheelspin more than road tyres from standing starts.

    Final drive can be done for less than the price of 2nd hand Schricks.

    Diet - Are you forgetting the roll cage ;)

    But, back to the post gentlemen.

    I would say stick with standard sticks and a flowed head onan 1800. Then look at going 2.0 for a really nice road car.

    Don't go 3.9FD on a road car... it'll drive you mad unless you like screaming about everywhere.
    Personally i wouldn't go 4-Branch. A lot of money for no proven gain IMO.
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  14. wussel Forum Member

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    Right, I have a 1.8 16v with aTSR 4 branch and Jetext competion system. Up until last week I was running TSR's kent reground std cams, don't know the profiles but 265 rings a bell. I had a head gasket fail, so swapped over to my spare head, which has standard 16v cams. My car feels slightly more torquey up to about 3500, but after 4500 it is quite a bit slower, feels as if I have a couple of passengers on board.


    I would say for a 1.8 16v, get a set of mild cams, they are perfectly usable everyday, and they do give you more top end. The low down torque in my car was exactly the same as it was when standard, the cams just gave it top end, so there really was no downside to fitting "slightly hotter cams"
     
  15. RobT

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    Who are you kidding - you reckon hot mich slicks grip less than road
    tyres - they are why you won the 0-60 - they are much worse when cold
    but when they have had 3 or 4 laps hooning around to get them sticky,
    they are fantastic. I'd watch ya gearbox now if I were you ;)

    Rob
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  16. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

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    :lol:

    I'm still not convinced with them from a standing start.
     
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    Whatever, obviously the entire sprinting scene have all got it wrong - I
    can consistently beat road modified cars (on road tyres, often shaved
    S02's which are well sticky) with my car on cold soft slicks to 64ft -
    margin is 0.3-0.5secs usually and would be more if they were warmer -
    and power to weights are very similar - vs lots of 205's with pukka skip
    brown engines etc

    Rob


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  18. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

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    Cold soft slicks - yes.
    But rock hard michelin slicks - wheelspun through 1st 2nd and chirped in 3rd if i didn't treat them gently.

    I'm not doubting your experience or knowledge on sprinting Rob.. but i got less wheelspin at Santa Pod on Toyo road tyres than i did at Brunters on slicks [:s]
     
  19. iguana Forum Member

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    Tubs you had a good 3 full laps of hooning on a hot day, that= about 12miles & with fast bends & full bore standing starts getting heat into the tyres there is no doubt ya slicks were sticky as feck & I felt 'em when you came back in & indeed properly end of track day sticky.

    You just know Ian v would have had ya if he brought along his slicks ;) .........
     
  20. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

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    Not a chance..

    Anyway - this is about cams for an 1800 road car :p
     

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