8v Camshaft Query - ADZ swap for 2E/AGG

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  1. Natedogg Forum Member

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    Hi all, tried the serch engine but couldn't find what i wanted.

    I ve been give a mk3 gti 8v Cam (not sure it its froma 2E or AGG - or if there any different) but i wondered what the duration and lift of the cam would be - or of both if they are different.

    Also, does anyone know the duration and lift of the stock ADZ cam?

    All i can find in the haynes book is the 2E is "A 026" and the ADZ is "Q 026" (same as an ABS - have no idea what that is as an engine)

    Any help would be much appreciated.

    Cheers, Nathan
     
  2. Nellis Forum Member

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    Nathan, the 026Q cam has a lift of 10mm, duration (measured @ 1mm) of 216 (actual 254), lift @ TDC of 0.72mm and a lobe spread angle of 111. The 026A is 10.2mm, 220.2 (258.2), 1.0mm and 110. These, of course, are "as designed" values and not as actually measured.
     
  3. Natedogg Forum Member

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    Nellis - i have no idea how or where you found that but top notch info!

    a whole 4.2 degrees duration and 0.2mm lift extra from a CL to a GTi cam - damn - no wonder the 8v mk3 was a bit pants out of the box if thats all it got cam wise over the 1.8 spi engine.

    Still, its lairier (sp) than stock so worth a swap as i have all the bits and its free basically! lol.

    i'm not sure if the stock intake manifold/single point injection would allow enough fuel for much more so this will probably be the only interanal mod it will get.

    4 branch will follow (as i have one spare) and a VR/GTi cat (got to keep it legal) to fit onto VR6 jetex system.

    Car also runs a drilled VR6 air box and K&N panel and make about 100hp at mo (so 10hp up from stock).

    Will report back if cam makes any difference what so ever.
     
  4. Nellis Forum Member

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    Ok, here's an actual measurement (let's call it a case study)
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    as well as the camfollower displacement graph

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    This is not where it ends, as the angle of the keyway, relative to the centre of no.1 lobe is 640' on the A and 440' on the Q. Now here's some irrelevant info but also relevant to a certain extent. The Q and the L has the same "lobe part no", if one could call it that. The only difference being that the L has an angle of 810'. The L, our side, was used in the 1800 carb engine. Another case is the G which has the same lobe as the A with the only difference being the keyway angle of 410'
     
  5. Natedogg Forum Member

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    Nellis - i have no idea what any of the above means - but looks very impressive and pretty!! Sorry mate.

    Do i need to change the timing on the dizzy therefore?

    Or on the belt by one tooth? Or do i need a vernier pulley (on a stock gti cam???)

    Sorry - excuse my ignorance
     
  6. spudboy6 New Member

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    Hello guys , just joined up as ive been looking for some information on a certain few things that has only been talked about in the thread !

    i have to same above mentioned car 1.8 with an ADZ engine and want to fit a cam form a 2.0 8v 2E or AGG engine ,

    now ive read all the above and wondered did the OP ever get a 2.0L cam in his 1.8 and how does it run or did the mod never get pulled off ?

    only thing i read above that concerned me was the key way being in a different position so would like to have so more info and see if it was ever done ,

    thread revival !

    thanks

    scott
     
  7. Jon Olds Forum Junkie

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    great info. why not buy a cheap secondhand kent/piper so you will notice the cam change? they do come up for sale
    Jon
     

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