Relay numbers

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  1. Vento Mike Forum Junkie

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    Probably something I should know really with all the electrical medaling I do but what do the numbers that VW stamp on their relays relate to? What can I cross referance them to?
     
  2. mattkh Forum Member

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    Hi
    give us an example.
     
  3. Vento Mike Forum Junkie

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    I know 99 is a wiper relay. Just an example[:s]
     
  4. neil kaye Forum Junkie

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    very interesting question one ive never thort about i could only take a wild guess they numbered them 1 to a 100 say to identify what vws thet go in maybee??
     
  5. Vento Mike Forum Junkie

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    19 was a wiper relay, 99 was a variable wiper relay (like on the mk3's where you pull the stalk down and back up and down to set the time delay) Thats as far as my knowledge goes!
     
  6. neil kaye Forum Junkie

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    iv wanted one of those relays 99 for ages so there on the mk 3's then????did i miss read you, what do you want to know,wether they are numbered 4 a reson or what numbers do what,try say that when your pis sed
     
  7. Crispy 8V CGTI Committee - Club Secretary Admin

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    I have no idea what numbering system they use, 100 is a normal power relay switch

    strange thing is wiring diagrams refer to the location in the relay carrier (stamped on board), they also refer in the wiring diagrams using J numbers

    all simple, when you need a relay you have to check the relay location, get the number that your refering to know which you need, find on etka the relay plate and wing it from there[:s] :(


    it's a daft & hard to work with
     
  8. Vento Mike Forum Junkie

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    Might have to start with a list then! Noticed some are here in the electrical faq section from rubjonny, cheers:)

    1 = Carb inlet manifold heater relay
    2 = Fuel pump relay (MK1 & Early MK2/Rocco K-Jet)
    5 = Shift light and MPG gauge
    15 = radiator fan
    17 = x-over relay, 40amp?
    18 = x-over relay
    19 = front wiper intermittant relay
    20 = rear wiper non-intermittant relay (when you push the stalk forward, it'll only wipe once, no intermittant!)
    21 = hazard/indicator relay
    30 = MK3 (GTI 8v or 16v?) ECU relay
    32 = MK2 digifant ECU relay
    36 = seatbelt warning relay (possibly headlight warning too?)
    53 = misc equipment ignition switched relay (horn, fogs, leccy windows etc)
    67 = MK2 16v/ MK3 VR6 fuel pump relay
    72 = rear wiper intermittant relay
    74 = carb decelleration cut-off
    80 = MK2 digifant fuel pump relay
    99 = front wiper variable intermittant relay
    109= VR6 ECU relay
    133= aircon relay
    167= MK3 & MK2 16v fuel pump relay


    Anyone know for sure what relay number for a mk1 fuel pump?
     
  9. neil kaye Forum Junkie

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    iv hered somone say that mk2 16v kr fuel pump relay is 167 but mine is 67
    anyway mine are for 1988 f reg kr
    43=control unit for idle increase
    24=cont unit for coolant storage indicator
    67=fuel pump relay
    53=duel tone horn relay
    18=relief relay for x contact
    19=int wash wipe relay(front)
    72=rear window wipe relay
    21=turn signal flasheror trailer towing warning relay
     
  10. cliver65 New Member

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    Which relay controls the rear screen demister?

    Golf year 2000. 1.9 litre S TDI. Rear screen demister not working.

    The fuse (number 26) to the rear-screen demister is OK, and I have removed the trim under the steering column to expose the relays. Now, if only I could decipher which relay controls the rear screen demister, I could check its integrity.

    I realise that the circuit pasted onto the rear screen may be broken, but would like to eliminate other easier causes first. After the relay is checked, next stop is removing the trim on the hatchback door, and checking if the power is reaching there.

    Can anyone tell me the number code for the screen demister relay? Or if I'm barking up the wrong tree? Or just barking ...
     
  11. rubjonny

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    there isnt a relay for the screen heater on its own, rather it is fed from the X-over relay '100' on the MK4. this relay also does the blower motor, rear wiper, front wiper and headlights so if those work this relay is fine.

    to start with make sure you have 12v at the white wire from the switch, if you do check for 12v at the white wire in the 5 pin plug on the left C pillar area. if thats ok check for 12v at the screen heater plug, and if THAT checks out it can only be the screen or earth :)
     
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    John,

    Thank you so much for your response. As the blower motor, rear wiper &c are fine, I can now forego fiddling with relays, with the possibility of breaking something else in the process!

    I will check the wiring voltages in those wires. Could you please enlighten me about what is a 'left C pillar'? Perhaps I'll find out when I follow the wiring from the switch, but a steer would be nice.

    Clive.
     
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    this is all the description you get in the wiring diagrams, on a mk2 golf it woudl be behind the boot side carpet near the rear light so i would start there. the wire has tyo run down from the tailgate to a plug which then joins the main car loom somewhere back there so hopefully it shouldnt be too hard to find :)
     
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    John,

    Success! After removing the plastic trims on the rear hatchback door, there were 12 volts both sides of the window connections, and each strand of the demister wires was sound. As you said, it was the earth. Within the rubber protective boot on the RHS of the door hinge, the big earth was completely severed, and had tried to weld itself to the insulating coatings of the other wires. It obviously happened years ago.

    It may be rather pathetic to feel excited just seeing your rear windscreen demisted, but I do! Many thanks for your advice.

    Clive.
     
  17. rubjonny

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    good stuff :thumbup:
     
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    I know this is a very very old thread, but I've come across a load of relay info, found it a while ago when my spares stock was growing with bits, and a conversation earlier with @PhilRyder reminded me of it.
    I'll post it in another box so you can do what you like with it, hope it helps someone.
     
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    VW Relays, SKODA Relays, Audi Relays, SEAT Relays,

    Relay #1 SEAT, VW Relay Multi Use Relay ... Part No - 171 906 383

    Relay #7 AUDI Relay - ABS Hydraulic Pump Relay

    Relay #13 VW, SKODA Relay - A/C Relay

    Relay #15 AUDI VW SEAT SKODA glow plug relay (same as #202) ... Part No - 8A0 951 253

    Relay #17 SKODA, Audi Seat VW relay ... Part No - 171 937 503A

    Relay #18 VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda, Load Reduction Relay ... Part No - 191 937 503

    Relay #19 VW, Seat, Audi Relay - Wiper Interval Relay ... Part No - 321 955 531A

    Relay 20 VAG VW Audi Skoda Relay - Rear Window Wiper Relay ... Part No - 171 955 529

    Relay #21 Polo Passat, Bora, Caddy, Emergency Signal Flasher Relay ... Part No - 191 953 227 A

    Relay #22 VAG, VW, Audi, Skoda, Indicator Hazards Relay ... Part No - 431 953 231

    Relay #27 Seat Relay - Belt Warning Control Module Relay

    Relay #30 VW, AUDI Relay - Rear Window Wiper/Washer Relay

    Relay #31 VW, Audi, Seat, Wiper Timed Relay ... Part No - 191 955 532A

    Relay #33 VW relay - Headlight Washer System Relay

    Relay #36 VW, Audi, Seat, Lights Left On Buzzer Relay ... Part No - 3A0 951 307

    Relay #38 VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda, Air Conditioning Relay ... Part No - 191 906 383A

    Relay #53 VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda Relay - Multi Use Relay ... Part No - 141 951 253B

    Relay #67 VW Jetta relay - FP (Fuel Pump) Relay

    Relay #68 VAG,VW, Audi,Skoda, Coasting Relay (Fog lights / Horn)... Part No - 811 919 098B

    Relay #72 VW, Audi, Seat, Rear Wiper Relay ... Part No - 191 955 529

    Relay #74 VAG, Control Unit Fuel Cut Off Relay ... Part No - 811 919 096G

    Relay #76 VW, Audi Relay - Double Relay ... Part No - 443927826,

    Relay #79 VW Relay - Remote Rear Lid Relay

    Relay #80 VW, 12v 40 Amp Fuel Pump Relay ... Part No - 191 906 383

    Relay #87 VW AUDI Relay - ABS Relay

    Relay #88 VW, Audi, Seat Relay - Buzzer Relay ... Part No - 443 951 307ABC

    Relay #94 VW Audi Relay - Head light Relay ... Part No - 191 906 383B

    Relay #99 VW Relay - Washer/Wiper Intermittent Relay

    Relay 100 Jetta, VW, Polo, Golf Relay - SAI relay (secodary Air Injection) (J299)

    Relay #100 VW, Audi , Seat, Skoda, Golf , Bora Beetle, Load Reduce Relay 7M0 951 253A

    Relay #109 ECU Power Supply Diesel AUDI, Skoda, Seat, VW, ... Part No - 357 906 381A

    Relay #117 VW Audi Seat Control Unit Relay Part Number 357906121

    Realy #120 VW AUDI VW Diesel Engine Control module relay ... Part No - 1H0 906 123

    Relay #128 VW AUDI Headlight Control Relay Part 7M0 941 597

    Relay #131 VW Audi Seat Skoda Timed Cooling Fan Relay Part No 357959485

    Relay #134 Audi, VW, Diesel Engine Relay Part No - 357906123

    Relay #147 VW Audi Seat Air Conditioning Relay Part No 1H0959142

    Relay #149 VW Audi Seat Skoda Rear ELECTRIC OPENING VENT WINDOW Nr 357959485

    Relay #151 VW Audi Seat Skoda Rear Fog Light Realy Part Number191945383

    Relay #153 VW Audi Seat Skoda PNEUMATIC IDLE SPEED BOOST Part No357907467

    Relay #167 VWAudi Seat Skoda Fuel Pump Relay With Part No 191906383C

    Relay #168 VW, Audi, Aircon Retardation Relay Part No 7M0906363

    Relay #169 VW Audi Seat Skoda Relay Heated Rear Window Relay Part No 7M0959627C

    Relay #136 AUDI , VW GOLF, IBIZA 1.9 AAZ Engine Control Unit Relay 1H0 906 123 A

    Relay #185 VW, Audi,Seat, Skoda, Relay For Starter Check Part No - 3B0 91 1251

    Relay #200 VW Audi Seat Skoda Relay Part No. - 7M0 951 255

    Realy #201 VW Audi Seat Skoda Relay Close Contact Relay Part No. - 443 951 253T

    Relay #202 AUDI A4/A6 VW PASSAT Relay - Glow Plug Relay NO 202 8A0 951 253

    Relay #203 VW Audi Seat Skoda GLOW PLUG RELAY FUEL PUMP Part No 8A0 951 253A

    Relay #204 VW, Audi, Skoda, SEAT Relay - Multi Use Relay Part Number 4319 512 53H

    Relay #205 VW Audi SEAT Relay - Contact Close Relay Part Number 443 951 253

    Relay #206 VWAudi Seat Skoda Relay For Air Con Part Number 431951253F

    Relay #208 VW Relay - Contact Close Relay Part Number 8A0951253B

    Relay #213 VW Audi Relay - Coolant Fan Relay 443951253J

    Relay #214 Audi, VW Relay - Cooling Fan Muli UseRelay 443951253K / 8D0951253A

    Relay #215 Audi Contact Close Relay Part Number No - 4439 512 53l

    Relay #216 VW Audi Seat Relay - Contact Close Relay Part Number 443 951 253M

    Relay #217 VW Audi Relay Part Number 443 951 253S

    Relay #218 VW Audi Seat Skoda Window Regulator Relay Part No 895951254

    Relay #213 VW Audi SEAT Skoda Relay - Cooling Fan Relay 443951253J Relief a4 a6 a8

    Relay #219 VW PASSAT AUDI A4, TOUAREG Relay - 12V FAN RELAY 443 951 253 AA

    Relay #229 VW Audi Seat Skoda Relay - Intermediate Wiper Relay Part No 431 955 531

    Relay # 236 Audi Time Control Relay Part Number 443955532A

    Relay #239 VW Audi Seat Realy - Rear Wiper Washer Relay Part Number 445955529A

    Relay #240 VW Audi Oil Pressure Relay Part Number 443919082

    Relay #241 VW Audi Oil Pressure Relay Part Number 443919082B

    Relay #259 VW Audi Seat Buzzer Relay Part Number 443951307A

    Relay #267 VW Audi Skoda Magnetic Clutch Relay 443919578C

    Relay #272 VWAudi Time Control Relay Part Number 443955532C

    Relay #297 VW Audi Control Unit GearShift Lock Relay PartNumber 443927351B

    Relay #296 VW Audi Seat Skoda Relay For Magnetic Coupling PartNo 443919578G

    Relay #301 VWAUDI SEAT RELAY Part No 4A09194714A

    Relay #305 VW Audi Seat Skoda AC Compressor Control Unit Relay No 443919578J

    Relay #310 Audi Relay - Oil Pressure Relay Part Number 893 919 082A

    Relay #337 VW Audi Seat Skoda Relay Part No 4A0 907 413

    Relay #339 VW Audi Seat Skoda Relay For ABS Part No 4A0 907 517

    Relay #342 VW AUDI Audi Air Conditioning Clutch Relay Part No - 4A0919579C

    Relay #351 VW Audi Seat Skoda Relay For ABS Part No 4A0907513A

    Relay #355 VW Audi Seat Skoda Relay PartNo 4A0 907 413A

    Relay #357 VW Audi Skoda Seat Cruise Control Relay... Part No - 4A0907307A

    Relay #361 VW, AUDI, SEAT 1.9 TDI Relay ... Part No - 4A0 907 440

    Relay #364 Audi Seat Skoda VW Relay Part No 4A0951258

    Relay #366 VW Audi Seat Skoda Relay Part No 4A0907413B

    Relay #368 Audi Seat Skoda VW Relay For Heater Unit Part No 4A0 907 045

    Relay # 370 VW Audi Relay Close Contact Relay 8d0 951 253

    Relay #373 AUDI VW Part Number: 8D0951253A (8D0 951 253A)

    Relay #377 VW Golf Bora Intermittent Wash Wipe, fuse Relay ... Part No - 4B0 955 531A

    Relay #381 VW, Audi, Skoda, Fog Light Relay ... Part No - 431951253G

    Relay #387 VW, Audi, Skoda, Head light Brake Warning Relay ... Part No - 4B0 919 417

    Relay #389 VW Relay - Headlight washers Relay

    Relay #390 VW, Audi, Multi Function Steering Wheel Relay ... Part No - 4B0 907 487

    Relay #399 VW, AUDI, Audi A8, Multi Function Steering Wheel Controller

    Relay #410 VW, Golf MK4, Lupo, Bora, Pasat, VW Polo Relay - Fuel Pump Relay 6N0 906 383A

    Relay #411 VW, Passat, Jetta, Golf, Skoda , Seat, Relay ... Part No - 1J0 959 485 A

    Relay #428 VW, Audi, Motronic Engine Control Module Relay (J271)

    Relay #430 VW Audi, Seat, Skoda, Relay ... Part No -7M3 959 143

    Relay #433 VW Golf, Touareg Relay - Starter Cut Off Relay, ... Part No - 3D0 951 253 A

    Relay #451 VW GOLF BORA Relay - Multi Function Steering Wheel Relay control Unit 1J0 907 487A

    Relay #460 VW GOLF JETTA Relay - Passat Engine Control Unit Relay ... Part No - 1K0951253A

    Relay #461 VW Touran Relay - 1T2 1.9 TDI (J271) Glow plug Relay 03G 907 282A

    Relay #460 ECU Relay, VW GOLF MK5 JETTA Passat Audi A3 TT 1K0951253A

    Relay #645 Audi VW Skoda Seat Relay - Multipurpose Cooling Fan Relay 4H0 951 253A
     
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