’91 Digifant idle question

Discussion in 'Engines' started by LukeyBoy, Dec 2, 2004.

  1. LukeyBoy New Member

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    Hi,

    i've got a mk2 8v, completely standard from when it
    left the factory. When i got the car in the 'height' of
    summer, the idle was superb... low, deep with a
    really even beat and comfortable to sit in the car. I
    remember thinking how impressed i was.

    Ever since it had it's timing belt changed in
    September, the idle just hasn't felt the same. I
    wanted to have the belt changed as it was due and
    thought that my timing was out due to a persistent
    shunt on initial throttle application & violent bucking
    at cruising speed problem when coming on and off
    the accelerator - which i now think is engine mount
    related.

    The mechanic who changed belt, who is a sort of
    mate of my dad's, used to work at a Merc dealer and
    does appear to know his stuff. He told me the timing
    was spot on before and that this wasn't the problem.

    However, as soon as picked the car up, it didn't feel
    quite as rock steady at idle - even though the needle
    doesn't budge from 900rpm - it just feels lumpier,
    sounds funny & sounds like it's missing. Could this
    just be a coincidence that this started happening at a
    time when the weather started to get colder.

    I have no loping idle symtpoms but occasionally
    recently, the car seems like it's gonna stall when
    started from cold and sometimes cuts out soon after
    starting when braking and coming to a stop.

    Have taken out idle screw, cleaned it but havcen't
    touched ISV. The blue coolant temp sensor was
    replaced by VW dealer about 3 years ago as it was
    faulty. AFAIK, i have no leaks in the intake system etc.

    Is it possible my mechanic ballsed up the timing
    thing by not "2250rpm'ing" it?
    Is this sort of behaviour typical digifant cold
    start/general idle behaviour?

    thanks very much in advance as i don't wanna blame
    my mechanic if this has nothing to do with him,

    Luke
     
  2. jbmg40 Forum Member

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    Unlikely to be cam timing IMO. Sounds like ISV clogging and its possibly
    worth checking your throttle switches too.
     
  3. The Pig Forum Member

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    Before you get too involved, make sure the igition timing is spot on. It does need to be done at around 2250 RPM with the blue temp sender disconnected (blip the throttle three times over 3 000 RPM) or you might as well not bother. Then clean the ISV and reset the base idle as per FAQs.

    You might also want to take the timing belt covers off and make sure that the cam is timed up correctly but the the loss of power if it was a tooth out is normally very noticable.
     
  4. Baj MK2 VR Forum Member

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    Get him to recheck the timing. did he readjust it after changing the belt. if the car has been timed with an old belt it will need redoing when you change the belt. this is because your old belt would have streched a bit over time. and make sure he follows the correct procedure (setting idel and disconecting temp plug etc)
    if that was the only thing he done on the car i definatly say it was the timing.
     
  5. LukeyBoy New Member

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    thanks guys,

    Could be wrong but it doesn't feel like i'm losing any
    power. the things revs beautifully. It's not as quick as
    my BBR MX5 but it's very torquey low-down and pulls
    pretty hard at 4-6k rpm. the car was owned by the
    same 'disctrict-nurse' lady from new so i know it's
    not been hammered at all. has done 130k miles
    though.

    problem with your advice is a) i don't have a strobe
    light gun and b) i truly wouldn't know what to do with
    it if i did. i am a numpty in that respect.

    so, how about i take the isv off and clean that to see
    if it makes a difference? it just seems odd to me that
    before cam-belt change, i couldn't fault it and after, i
    could.

    once again, thanks in advance.

    Luke
     
  6. chrismc Forum Junkie

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    Check the bung in the rocker cover for splits too...

    If the idle is slightly lumpy id hazard a guess at an air leak...

    The throttle body rubber blanks can also perish & introduce air leaks too..
     

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