1) 3.455 2) 2.118 3) 1.444 4) 1.129 5) 0.912 FD) 3.667 Don't have reverse gear - is that what you need?
Damn too slow List of oh-too-oh gear ratios and speed/rpm calculator at http://gvkgti.free.fr/images/speed-ratio.html Edited by: GVK
there is a mk4 box the DZQ i think, that is an 02J but has lower ratios than a 2Y, and should be cheapish if you can find one. alternatively, the fuggin huge 02m from a Leon will give lower than 2y for the 1st 5 gears and a 160mph top when on 15"s but it does weigh more than my dog, and that's damn heavy. What about thos maestros that had 02 boxes, must be loads of em with low final drives,
If you want a 100mph top speed there's a few mega-low VWMS FDs on Bildon's site http://www.bildon.com Edited by: GVK
Right, what you need is an 02U 6 speed from a Lupo GTI. Right bellhousing pattern etc. Got to be at least as strong as an 020. Super snappy change. Ratios are closer than a 2Y with a 3.9 in and it has an extra cog for cruisin to the Ring. Ratios:- 3.167 1.955 1.387 1.135 0.933 0.776 4.188 FD
Sounds good Nick. This is a sort of cable change box isn't it? The Lupo 16V engine was derived from ?the old 1300? lump, no? That's where I'm not 100% - since 085s couldn't be swapped with 020s...
GTI block is derived from small block, but is cast with lugs to take big block box pattern, starter at the front etc. Box looks very much like other 02 type boxes, cables to top etc.
Cable change..... Lupo box is an interesting idea, but I assume the 020 ATB diff wont swap straight over.......hence we are into the realms of big bucks again, & arent 6 speed Lupo boxes known to be troublesome?? Something like an ACD 8v 3.9 F.D with the corresponding 5th ratio to make cruising bearable (a la GVK ) sounds most do-able to me..
Change is really positive and quick, every bit as good as a rod box, nowt like say a mk4 Golf turbo which is pretty awful, so I know where you are coming from. I have'nt heard much bad news tbh. Mines' done some track mileage and is fine. No slipper though. Think a bit of a heads together at Mallory is required to establish if it is totally 02 or if its a VAG parts bin special. Could do with pulling it to bits really!
I know the ratios are good for track work as Dogwood took me for a spin in the Lupo at the 'ring, cracking little car As long as you use a newsish shifter mech not some w*nked out old thing off a mk3 diesel with starship miles, the cable change ain't that bad.
ACD FD is 3.6 Chris, it's the ACD 4th and 5th gear I've used, with a 3.89 FD from the old mk1 GTI F code gearboxes.
I was having a look at the VW parts system earlier, and the Lupo box looks like it could have limits for mega power - the outer bearings are held in a bolt on plate, rather than cast as part of the casing. It has a 220mm clutch, but looks the same fundamental design as an 02A/J clutch.
Chris, can you establish what the diff is ie. 020, 02a, unique? Would like to think some sort of ATB would slot straight in. I know Rothe put 220 brake and turbo torque through them, so I think they could be ok for a good n/a 2.0 16v.
I've had a look at the parts diagram on ETOS at the diff on the lupo 6spd box and the outer bearing on the diff is a different size to the 02A/J so I would think that the diff is unique. There is a possibility to get a get a diff to fit with some machining work, but until someone trys it... Also, Quaife dont list a diff for the Lupo box
