2.0TSR Driver - more power

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  1. pimpdriver Forum Member

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    Hello,
    I have a 90H 2.0 Driver (Tim Stiles 2 litre Oulton engine) based
    on an 1800 block. Allegedly 135BHP.
    I would like to increase the power (since I got my ass whupped
    by a Rover 200 TURBO and a Passat TDI [red D, redI]) above
    70mph.
    I will probably go for a new exhaust (Magnex, Milltek or Jetex).
    Manifold - will get a cast manifold and get it flowed or do it
    myself.
    Filter - replace the standard intake trunking (with K&N panel
    filter) with a K&N Bolt-On filter ( and cold weather kit).
    Fit twin 40s (Weber or Dellorto) although I have heard bad
    things about keeping them balanced.
    Any ideas/opinions or "no-no's" bearing in mind this is my daily
    driver...
    Cheers,
    Steve
     
  2. Rallye Forum Junkie

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    twin carbs will throw the fuel ecconomy out the window
     
  3. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

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    Get a valver
     
  4. chrismc Forum Junkie

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    To be honest both the cars you mention will easily beat you, especially the Rover...

    Doing bits such as exhaust/filter arent going to make enough difference...

    Twin 40s would bump the power up nicely but arent suitable for daily driver use...It also depends on the spec of the head. If it still has standard sized valves you will be limited to 135BHP tops.. [:$]
     
  5. pimpdriver Forum Member

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    Having looked at the spec of a Rover 220 Turbo, not surprising
    I got my ass whupped! 0-60 in 6.2 seconds!

    Between 30-90 my car was quicker than my Mrs' A4 1.9TDi
    (110 BHP).

    The car is in brilliant condition, so I will keep it, and for now do
    the filter and exhaust, and in the future a TSR Pack C head with
    larger valves.

    Thanks for the advice,

    Steve
     
  6. TIM

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    how much did the engine conversion cost you?

    tim
     
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    2500

    I still stand by what i have always said!
     
  9. chrismc Forum Junkie

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    apart from when you had an 8v eh Tub? [:$]
     
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  11. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

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    I'm not refferring to the 8v Vs 16v debate.

    I'm on about 2500 for anything other than a 20vt to be fitted!
     
  12. chrismc Forum Junkie

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    Im in shock :o

    There is no debate anyhow...A 16v is faster like for like. Anyone who disagrees is wrong. Us 8v owners dont need it to be force fed though ;) SIMPLE [:D]
     
  13. Lee-GTi Forum Member

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    Chris, i had the same engine conversion as you and i could keep up with a valver!!! apart from up long hills they would pull away as if i was going the other way!! [:$] [:x]
     
  14. Tubthumped Forum Junkie

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    A badly setup un-healthy valver... maybe.

    A healty KR.. doubt it. A healthy 2.0 -- cya later! :lol:
     
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  16. chrismc Forum Junkie

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    Come on Tub, you aint serious surely?..No 1800 valver, good set up or bad, can match 153lbs/ft...

    Most 2L 16v's in standard fettle cant either..Just look at Profs graphs..

    The 1800s might have similar top end power, but they are "out-torqued" all the way..

    Similar performance on track where the KRs can sit at Big RPM all the time but on the road & off the line its a different matter..the KR loses out!!

    With a 2L 16v its similar to the std 8v vs 16v situation. The 2L 8v can hang on til the 2L hits the high notes..The amount the 16v pulls away depends on its state of tune. A 10 BHP difference at the wheels on the rollers does not amount to a great deal on the road, especially when the valver only makes the extra right at the top end...

    I may have spent a packet on the 8v, but in an everyday situation a KR wont bother me..
     
  17. JEZ

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    I wish I'd managed to get my old 8v down santa pod <sigh>

    From what you say pimpdriver you could be looking at another 10 or so bhp. What carb are you using? If it's the pierburg it might be worth considering a webber replacement.

    I'm also looking at getting a standard exhaust manifold flowed. I had a TSR 4 branch on my last 8v, but fancy a change this time. Would like to see what results you get :)
     
  18. Black-Mk2-GTI Forum Member

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    My dad has a Passat 20v Turbo (same power as red lettered Passat TDI) and its not as fast as Mk2 Golf 8v on acceleration. Though where an 8v will only do about 115-120mph his passat does about 130mph so it's only quicker top speed. Most Mk2's aren't running the power they should be cos they're getting on a bit now so maybe you could do with a tune up pimpdriver.
     
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    Right -- chiped diesel Vs my valver -- easy win for me. Look at the stats of the Diesel cars in this months Golf mag shoot out -- massive torque, but not that fast time wise.

    Not gonna go into the 8 vs 16 thing -- i said i wouldn't, but you lesser 8v boys just have to.... :lol:

    My only point in this thread is that 2500 for an 8v engine is insane.
     
  20. chrismc Forum Junkie

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    I agree....2500 is silly money to spend in one hit :)

    Diesels are not about 0-60...in gear times would at least match yours with 230+ lbs/ft torque minimum...

    Most of us can beat them diesels 0-60..big deal!

    With regard to a KR vs a 2L 8v....You are spouting testacles!!

    155BHP & 150 odd lbs/ft makes for a faster car than 155BHP & 125lbs/ft..regardless of the driver/ number of valves/ how much YOU want the valver to be faster... ;)
     
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