8v vrs 16v

Discussion in 'Engines' started by ripskin, Oct 18, 2007.

  1. 87 UMN

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    sorry in brackets i mean it completly changes the 16v meaning more torque etc and power over the standard.....im tryin to push that the 2lt 16v is better all round. not very clear sorry mate
     
  2. drunkenalan Paid Member Paid Member

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    I am a big fan of the 8v engine, having only ever owned 8v golfs, I have tried 16v mk2 and didnt like the way the power was distributed altho quite liked the revvy ness of it.

    having never driven a 2l 16v i couldnt comment on the way they drive, however i was impressed greatly by the power delivery of Hotgolf's mk2 that i was taken for a ride in, and would consider a 2.1 16v, just not at the minute! as im building an 2.1 8v on TB's
     
  3. ambrose89

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: and they're off !!

    http://www.matey-matey.com/dis_6.shtml
    GTI 16V

    "The inevitable drawbacks of this engine were decreased driveability and a considerable price differential over the 8-valve model. What the engine displayed was a characteristic common to all multi-valve engines, with increased power only coming in the upper section of the extended rev range. Peak torque figures with multivalve engines whilst usually being greater than those of their lesser-valved counterparts are inevitably achieved at higher engine speeds.

    On the open road this makes for blistering progress, but in traffic around town and especially when compared with the renowned torque of the 8v, the 16v engine offered diminished flexibility."
     
  4. fthaimike Forum Addict

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    um the 16v is better..... end of [:$] :lol: (i love 8v's myself)
     
  5. ambrose89

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    ouch [8(]
     
  6. Toyotec

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    PB 8v digifant 2 to ABF digifant is a step that you will feel no matter how you attempt to optimise a 1.8 8v. This is a good conversion for those with cars that were not 16v originally. My impressions about an ABF on digifant 3/3.2 are very responsive from 2000 rpm with urgency slowing down but not stopping past 6000rpm. If you get everything for this conversion you will be well pleased. This will work like this from out the box (or wreck) and can be used on the original gearbox. The K jet version of this is a bit more torquey post 3000- and at 6500rpm would start to drop off. But I would not recomend to convert your car to K-jet if it is a digifant car to harness this extra torque. There are other cheaper methods that would beat back both types.
     
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  7. prof Forum Addict

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    totally agree with toyotec

    an ABF in a mk2 on digi 3 is a great thing, lots of torque, great MPG, very flexible

    My ABF is in gti69s car and it goes like f'k
     
  8. ripskin Forum Member

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    Ok ok calm down, Ding ding!! all that malarkey ;) One of each sounds good to me:)
    Anyone floggin any 16v's??
     
  9. sambo Paid Member Paid Member

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    Maybe;)
     
  10. sinisterdexter Forum Member

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    Ok then, let's go the whole hog.

    Number of valves aside, which is a better fuelling system, K-Jet or Digifant?

    Dex [:?:]
     
  11. ripskin Forum Member

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    OK, so now im leaning back towards conversion from my digi 8v to 2l 16v abf....... if i could find a good donor hmmmmm does sound like the less complicated way, I certainly dont want to change from digi to k jet and im used to the way digi works.

    But how much work is it really? I mean im not phased by the mechanical side of the conversion but i do not have equiptment to test/setup the injection system get optimal performance . Or is it literally plug and play with ecu's sensors etc??
     
  12. ripskin Forum Member

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    Sambo what you got ?[:D]
     
  13. sambo Paid Member Paid Member

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    Check the sig:)
     
  14. Aphex Forum Junkie

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    If I had the money I'd be ripping your arm off for that mk2. Possible your leg too.
     
  15. sambo Paid Member Paid Member

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    That would hurt:lol:

    Ripskin.... pm if interested
     
  16. prof Forum Addict

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    you need the mk3 engine loom and ecu, transponder loom and key [if post 1996 engine]

    but it will all plug stright into a post 1990 mk2 fusebox

    will need a lambda boss in the exhaust and get a lightened flywheel while the box is off

    Toyotec, any advice on clutch?
     
  17. Aphex Forum Junkie

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    I'd say it needed one :p
     
  18. ripskin Forum Member

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    can you put 150 bhp + through a standard 020?? might have to upgrade friction plate? pressure plate? 16v components might help?
     
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    I'm putting 200+ through an 020 with nom problems so far.
    Complete rebuild diff bolts and it's holding fine.
     
  20. ripskin Forum Member

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    wow, thats clears that up then lol. you dont have to brag hot golf;) btw Im in love with your sig:) is it turbo'ed??
     

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