any Pierburg 2e2 experts??

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  1. daviddd Forum Member

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    Just when I was feeling smug about my beautiful new Rocco, I had problems today on a 200 mile roundtrip on the west coast. Everytime I came to a hill the car tried to cut out, and sometimes did. I'm sure it's fuel starvation, I had to feather the throttle right back in order to (just) keep going. After a short pause she started OK then went for another few hundred yards until tried to die again.

    She was OK again this morning so it's gonna be hard to find this intermittent fault [:x]

    Is this common on the 2E2 carb anyone?
    [:s]
     
  2. mk286GTI Forum Member

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    odd, not carb freeze then.
     
  3. K13_RAN Forum Member

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    sounds like carb icing to me
     
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    me too, check the warm air feed from the ex mani is in tact first.
     
  5. K13_RAN Forum Member

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    when i had carb icing problems there was talk about checking the
    coolant feed and preheater...(not present on the 1300 carb i had) but
    you may have these.....



    see if this thread helps you in any way



    Linky Link



    forget the vacuum part, below it it goes onto carb icing



    hope that helps
     
  6. daviddd Forum Member

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    Interesting thread - I've never had much to do with carbs but I can see it's a science by itself. My cutting out / dying began again on the way home just after the engine reached temperature and when I got up to 60 (funnily enough!!)

    the thread ends ......." the problem your having kieran sounds like carb icing, and the cause is probably the hot air feed from the exhaust to under the inlet manifold. ".....was that defo your prob then, carb icing?

    I've got a day off tomorrow so will check out allthis stuff, mebbe chech the jets.

    Thanks for the advice....
     
  7. vw_stu Forum Member

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    might be worth checking the fuel pick up pipe in the fuel tank.



    i used to have a mk 1 golf driver that had cutting out problems.
    we eventually traced it to the pick up pipe. it was clogged solid with
    dirt and rust and god knows what else.



    don`t discount the carb though, my scirocco has a pierburg and i`ve
    been having trouble with it recently. too bloody complicated is what
    they are. utter headache when wrong, wonderful when right.
     
  8. K13_RAN Forum Member

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    david im still not sure of my problem, i thought it was carb icing but
    i have since changed the carb for a weber. and now my problem has
    since changed....ive got to the point with mine where ive booked it
    into a specialist to sort out next tuesday



    i think my previous problem definately was carb icing but the feed into the back of the inlet manifold was fine so it wasnt that



    i'll let you know the outcome



    bu theres lots to check on with the thread i gave you, so hopefully your problem is slightly easier to find
     
  9. daviddd Forum Member

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    yup, overalls on tomorrow and tear into the carb. . [:D]
     
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    seems everyone is suffereing from carb icing atm (me k13_ran and you) from what ive gathered the simplest way to solve it is by using some high octane fuel (i.e optimax and a fuel additive octane booster). failing that, buy some silkoline pro fst (i havent found a place apart from the interweb that sells it) but this is designed to stop carb icing [:D]
    Edited by: LathamEscortMK2
     
  12. K13_RAN Forum Member

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    oo really? how does this work then? what is it?
     
  13. daviddd Forum Member

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    I think it's shampoo! :lol:

    I've been using unleaded even though super (98 octane) is recommended. I always did this with my 16V Golf with no ill effects at all, but I wonder if this is contributing to icing. There's yet another guy on sciroccoregister thathas this problem! Weird. It has been pretty cold mind.
     
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    i think when i get my car back i might use optimax now then....



    GO AWAY COLD WEATHER, YOU'RE MAKING MY CAR ILL[xx(][8(]



    grrrrr
     
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    ye i think its down to the cold weather why everyones getting it!

    http://www.silkoleneoil.com/techtip7.htm

    thats the stuff that does the job, its designed for bikes (as they are more prone to it that us cars) and is ment to be the shiznit.

    heres a few quotes that might give you a few insights:

    basically from what was said on the other forum, the higher the octane, the less chance of carb icing (only slight, but i only suffer from slight carb icing)
    it seems to have done the job today, but it isnt conclusive evidence as it wasnt too cold today ;)

    it also gives me an exuse to run my car on 100ron plus fuel [:D] :lol:

    ps be wary of trying to buy it! read my thread in the general section about what happened when i went into a bike shop to get some today :lol:
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    oh good stuff, well if i still get minor problems with icing i'll get
    some of that...see what shes like when the garage has has their wicked
    way.
     
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    ps, i havent actually managed to lay my nhands on the pro fst, i was just using a octane booster today and it did the trick, the pro fst will probably solve the worst of the carb icing problems (but am putting off buying it unless it carries on
     
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    I have solved my icing by wrapping one of these on the top of my carb.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=45 30660959

    Happy to say it has done the trick and it is amazing how much faster I can go off choke now.

    Also Octane Booster is a load of crap as it does not increase your octane up to 100+ RON. It increases it by three points which is less than 1 RON. Waste of money. I cannot really see how higher octane fuel reduces carb icing though.
     
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    Interesting stuff. I had a quick look under the bonnet this morning and noticed that the warm air hose (from exhaust to intake via air valve) is coming away and has a bit of a gap allowing cold air in. I'll sort that (when it stops snowing [:x] ) and see how it goes.
     
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    ye i actuall exagerated by saing 100ron [:$] more like 99, and tbh this was the information i got from a mk2 escort forum and apparently it works for them, so it probably does work. and saying that octane booster is a waste of money is complete pap, as i have to add lead additive to the mixture, so i may as well buy the "all in one" version with the octane booster and additive and cleaner etc etc,
     

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