Sequential 02A build

Discussion in 'Transmission' started by Brian.G, Jan 5, 2011.

  1. Brian.G

    Brian.G Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2008
    Likes Received:
    467
    Location:
    West of Ireland
    Going over a few material specs, and it looks like Im going to go with 6063 aluminium alloy, heat treated, and anodised for the drum. Strength and machine-ability are good.

    For the fork pillar, Im going with a high chrome ground bar. Something similar to a Damper (shock absorber) shaft.

    For the forks Im not that sure on yet, as to whether I go with a 2 piece design, that is, the fork, and the pillar shaft bush/bearing. Or a three piece design, where I use a dis-similar bearing metal for the fork parts contacting the synchroniser assembly.

    Ideally Id like to make the forks from aluminium but I have to look into that some more as I feel cast alloy could fail after sometime, and billet may deflect unless the fingers are quite bulky.

    Ill need to do the fork drawings and decide then once I see actual possible sizes.

    BG
     
  2. m1keh Forum Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2009
    Likes Received:
    56
    From looking at many motorbikes and also knowing the stiffness of different materials I'd be looking at some form of steel. The size you can make them will be limited due to gear spacing and you don't want bendy shift forks.
     
  3. Brian.G

    Brian.G Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2008
    Likes Received:
    467
    Location:
    West of Ireland
    Yes indeed:thumbup:
    Cast iron would be nice since it has bearing qualities as is. Or something forged too, but this is hard to do at home.

    So thats why Im thinking now going back on my word maybe cast lm25 heat treated with ribs for stiffness could be engineered to do the job. The ribs could possibly extend around the fork circumference for most of it, and give good support to the fingers/rebate that engages in groove.
    Ill have to do a few tests first.
    It is light and very easy work.

    More pics in a while:thumbup:
     
  4. Brian.G

    Brian.G Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2008
    Likes Received:
    467
    Location:
    West of Ireland
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Pretty tight in there, but, once I plan the access slot it should ease things a bit.

    I have to study where the most stresses are to figure out the areas that can be taken out, and replaced in a different location to add case rigidity. Luckly the separation loads around the lower gears are taken by the main bellhousing case.

    BG
     
  5. roy8v

    roy8v Forum Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2005
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Hampshire
    This is all way over my head at present but very interesting none the less, looking forward to seeing how this unfolds. Brilliant concept, best of luck:thumbup:
     
  6. Brian.G

    Brian.G Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2008
    Likes Received:
    467
    Location:
    West of Ireland
    Thanks Roy,

    So Ive been doing a few rough sketches on how a modular unit could be added to the side of box, without effecting its structure, Ill do a few more before deciding on the best route, then Ill post it up:thumbup:

    I recently picked up the part in the link below, to study some machining issues I had been wondering about,

    http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2020167&postcount=1396

    More soon:thumbup:
     
  7. Brian.G

    Brian.G Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2008
    Likes Received:
    467
    Location:
    West of Ireland
    Plan decided on, drawing has commenced:thumbup:
     
  8. m1keh Forum Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2009
    Likes Received:
    56
    :) look forward to the plans.
     
  9. MelG60 Paid Member Paid Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2010
    Likes Received:
    16
    Location:
    Holland
    I saw this at a autosport show today:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Looks alot like the Klaus Berner gearbox but with cnc'd housing shame about doing so much work to make a 02J seq and having the OEM clutch housing with weak spot were the input shaft is bolted to.
    They asked 10.000 euro for it!
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 30, 2011
  10. majic79 Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2010
    Likes Received:
    0
    nice - been thinking about doing something to my 085, but if I start running big power I'll probably bite the bullet and buy a motorsport gearbox :(
     
  11. danster Forum Addict

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2008
    Likes Received:
    15
    Can you not go to the 02K case, if you have a small block?

    Marginally better than the 085. :lol:
     
  12. majic79 Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2010
    Likes Received:
    0
    I dunno - does it fit on the 1.4 iron block?
     
  13. Mick B. New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2010
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Southern Ireland
    I was watching the 24hours of daytona there last night, they changed a sequential box in a matter of minutes, out on the ground, bare cogs and slotted the new one in.. deadly job.. [:D]
     
  14. INA

    INA Forum Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2008
    Likes Received:
    6
    Some amazing machine work went into that box.:clap:
     
  15. A.N. Other Banned after significant club disruption Dec 5th 2

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2003
    Likes Received:
    448
  16. majic79 Forum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2010
    Likes Received:
    0
    probably a topic for a later date - once I've got a spare engine I'll see about getting one of these to mate up to it!
     
  17. Mick B. New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2010
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Southern Ireland
    If you have an agricultural scrapyard nearby, the rod of a hydraulic ram should be a good donor for chrome bar. :thumbup:
     
  18. The_bug Forum Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2008
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Near Coventry
    Cant rememeber if I read anything about this in this thread (a while since i read it) but this looked interesting and kind of relevent. The VW shiftmatic gearbox

    http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_372.pdf

    Slightly off topic but a good excuse for a bump ;).
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice