As per title, I have been offered a rear pair of new wilwood alloy calipers and I am thinking to use it on either my mk2 or on a seat exeo tdi. Yep they are suitable from 280mm-330mm discs and use standard VAG rear pads…anyone ever used a pair ? They are radially mounted but the carriers are missing- they are easy enough to make…discs might be a bit of a problem to find- definitely won’t get wilwood discs. Anyone tried them before and may be able to offer some feedback ?
There are mounts to adapt standard calipers on mk4/ polo etc to fit 280mm discs, uses a standard front disc from what I can make out. Those wilwoods look great, as long as get the 90degree bit to mount then a plate is reasonably easy.
Thank you ! To be honest I am thinking of giving them a go but I may fit them on the seat exeo I have to balance the front 330mm brakes. I have already bought Porsche 4 pot calipers and 350mm ATE power discs for Mercedes ML v8…I have already a 312mm rear brake kit and a 280mm rear kit but sadly don’t fit on FWD rear hubs ?! The 312mm rear brake kit is off b5 Audi rs4 2.7TT and the 280mm is off v8 Audi allroad c5. This uses front discs from Audi A4 b5 so are dirt cheap but unfortunately I could not make it fit on the rear of the exeo. I have a full conversion to do to a Quattro drivetrain so I will try it when it comes to fit the driveline when weather permits !
I have already 280mm front brakes on a 5 stud conversion and I barely can stop the car ! Rear is also disc converted with alloy calipers…my mk2 is not for faint hearted, 360bhp is supercar territory in a shell that light ! I also look for ways to improve braking performance and if I upgrade the rear, for sure the front gets balanced as well…I have a full ATE big brake kit that was meant for a b5 rs4 with 330mm 2 piece discs and 4 pot calipers all radially mounted…I also tried b5 v6 tdi carriers with ATE calipers and 312mm brake discs off Octavia vrs- that’s also an option !
I would not upgrade if not necessary! I am only limited by the wheel choice/offset ! I need 17” minimum wheel size for the 330mm front brakes and 16” for 312mm… I might try 16” wheels 1st see how I like it, the suspension is already hard on 15” slicks…
See Nigel’s track Mk2 aka the pinderwagen, he runs standard Mk2 rear brakes and never can’t stop. He’s also got over 400bhp with a boost button that adds an extra 100bhp
17s on a mk2 need rubber band tyres, I have a set of lcr brembo calipers I was going to fit, but didn't in the end due to tyres , had 17s on my mk2 caddy for a week, they really made it different to drive so I went back to 15s. Surely a 312 set up and 256 rears on a mk2 with 16s would be enough with decent compound pads. Re the exeo, I had an A4b7 fwd avant and the brakes on that were pretty poor for a heavy car, fronts got changed to the S4 calipers and rears to 255 from 240 (or something like that, same caliper, different carriers) Did look at porsche set up, but the s4 came up well priced and were excellent when fitted. Could you space the rears if from 4wd to 2wd as the mk4 golf boys do, with tt rears? I had some spacers laser cut for the lcr fronts to mk3 golf hubs to centre calipers to discs. Know I'm not the best to say stick with smaller brakes, (brake envy sufferer), but on stupid bhp fabia or polo gti which I would take as similar sizes to a mk2, the 256 rear off an Octavia and 312 fronts are ample. 330/350 fronts , 280 rear on exeo, look at epytec for adapters ( although not impressed at service for prices)
Heard about it ! In fact I watched the clip on YouTube with misha caroudin at the Nurburgring ! That car goes well ! Mine is not that extreme but I drive it on bad-ish roads with mud and grass on from tractors coming off fields and farms ! I did not said I cannot stop the car/Per de but the brakes don’t offer the confidence I have from a modern car with properly breaking system and ABS…
Thanks dodgy, sound info there…I miss my old b6 s4 on Audi s8 forged 20” wheels and b7 rs4 front brakes/ 300mm stock rear- that car could stop on a dime ! I could probably space the rear hubs to get the necessary clearances for centering the calipers, unfortunately I did grind one carrier a bit too much to try and fit and I can’t find another one for love nor money ! I will probably weld it up to build it again and have it machined to match the other ! That would be the easiest solution for now ! Thanks for the info ! Happy new year chaps !
Barely can stop it’s not quite Can’t stop it ! When I 1st drove the car after the engine swap the brake master cyl went tits up on me and gave me a fright having brakes just on 1 front wheel ! Getting master replaced with a t4 2.5 tdi jobbie improved the brakes ten fold ! However it’s not as sharp as they could be ! Might try a different pad compound on it, one of my mates got himself some AKebono pads from the states, he’s also upgraded brakes to rs q5 front discs and calipers on his allroad, he is very, very happy with them !
Not trying to be hostile but we came to this forum due to our love for mk2 cars, some like it stock as to increase value some day, some like to modify and drive the crap out of them ! I find the fun of modifying much more intense than looking on the window at a shiny paintwork…and if I am barking to the wrong tree…so be it ! I was asking for suggestions on a brake upgrade.
Huge front brakes on a track car with sticky tyres make perfect sense. But the harder you brake, the less the rears do... Hence the suggestion you are going overkill on the rears. Don't take a difference of opinion as an argument. It'd be different if you had the 4wd setup, as the inertia of the drivetrain would require more braking effort. With the setup you already have, you should have fantastic brakes. Possibly you have a mismatch of pedal ratio, servo action, master to slave cylinder ratio and obviously that conundrum of pad compound. With even bigger brakes, you're more likely to lock wheels up when driving on the country lanes. I would say the majority of us prefer to modify our cars, maybe not to the extent you have, but we do like brake and suspension upgrades. As mentioned previously though, looking at Niges mk2, Gurds (Vw Singh) mk1 and Nick (Prawn) s3, all running monster power and tyres, none have huge rear brakes. More details of your car please, it sounds interesting.
Mk3 front subframe, 6 speed gearbox with custom driveshafts, pd160 Bhp engine, aftermarket camshaft, ina DLC coated lifters, glyco cam bearings, Mahle splutter rod bearings, aftermarket rods, ARP hardware, ported head, firad +160% nozzles, custom remap, f10 turbocharger with AMG style lighter turbine wheel, 69/73mm ETT compressor wheel, vw beetle shallow sump, large FMIC, vr6 aftermarket radiator, twin 9” fans, Sachs SRE clutch kit, locking differential, 5 stud conversion, mk3 rear axle with mk4 rear calipers, Audi A3 pepper pot wheels, 15” toyo proxes tyres, 3” exhaust front to back, stripped interior, battery relocated in the boot, coilovers suspension, custom strut brace, etc… Turbo is running 2.5 bar pressure so unfortunately I have hit the max output on the turbo with reasonable EGT so I bought a BW s300 to get the necessary airflow…waiting for the hotter weather to start fabricating the new exhaust manifold…probably much I have omitted…
I have ATE ceramic pads…take a little to warm up but they bite ok when hot with little fade. However I don’t feel they are up to scratch, I am used to progressive multi pot calipers and this 280mm setup doesn’t give me much feedback when modulating the pedal…it stops but o can smoke the pads really easy then I get brake fade which isn’t pleasant at all ?!!
