00527 - Intake Manifold Temperature Sensor (G72)

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  1. mat-mk3

    mat-mk3 Administrator Admin

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    I have this code come up on my VR6:

    00527 - Intake Manifold Temperature Sensor (G72)
    30-00 - Open or Short to B+

    I dont seem to notice any problems really but when i clear the code the revs drop down about 100rpm and then goes back up, Then the code reappears.

    Which one is the G72 and where is it located?

    Cheers
    Mat:)
     
  2. Matt82

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    intake manifold just after the tb i think
     
  3. Toyotec

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    G72 is located here.

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    Check the wiring or replace the sensor. Shorted to + means open circuited.
    The ECU is probably thinking the manifold temp is -48C if this is case.
     
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    Awesome, Cheers Toyo. I will have a look tomorrow!
     
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    No problem...
     
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    The wiring looks ok, All intact. I guess i check for 12v accross the pins to make sure the problem is not further back?

    If i have 12v at the pins then i guess its the sensor.
     
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    Got my ELSA working!

    → Pull 2 pin connector off intake manifold temperature sender -arrow-.
    ‒ Check wiring between test box and 2 pin connector for open circuit according to current flow diagram.
    Contact 1+socket 36
    Contact 2+socket 33
    Wire resistance: Max. 1.5 ω
    ‒ Check wire between control unit connector and 2 pin connector contact 2 for short to contact 1 wire and to vehicle earth, according to current flow diagram.
    Contact 2+socket 36

    One contact is fine to the ECU but the other (Earth) is broken somewhere. Cant chase it back that far with out taking the oilpack off[xx(]

    Might just run a new one for it, Would be the best way i think.
    All other sensors that share this earth to the ECU are fine, I have no idea where they are joined though.

    I cant get the big plug apart on the engine. Someone seems to have put a wire all the way through it so you cant get it apart!
     
  8. Toyotec

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    All the brown wires earth to the engine behind the Aux pump.

    Run a separate earth from G72 and the fault should go away.

    T42 connector is twist counter clockwise and pull apart.
     
  9. mat-mk3

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    They all earth to a bolt or something behind the Aux water pump? So they dont go through the T42 connector?

    I can get the T42 apart, But at the bottom there is a yellow wire connecting both sides so i cant pull it apart enough to get into it. Might just have to rip it apart and deal with it after.
     
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    Scratch that with the earth bloted to the engine. Different path!

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    This page describes your G42/72 sensor in relation to your VR6, controlled by M2.9.1. It is similar a MK3 VR6 like mine with M3.8.1.

    Use it to troubleshoot the issue. It would appear your wire on Pin 2 is broken some where in the harness on the engine end of the T42 plug. Try jumping G42/72 sensor earth flylead with G62 coolant temp sensor and then tack down the problem.

    Good luck,
    let us know how you get on.
     
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    Sigh...

    Got no where chasing the wire back. I can meter it into the T42 plug and out the other side but not back to the ECU.
    All the other sensors are fine, Trouble is i dont know where they are all joined together.

    Problem is now that my fuel pumps is constantly priming. Turn the ignition on and it starts and doesnt stop. I have to turn it off as i dont want to fill the engine with fuel (Can this happen?)
    Not sure what the problem is with this now, Not done it before[:^(]
     
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    At bloody last!

    Got home early to have a play with it (run out of space at the unit)
    First thing, fuel pump. For some reason it was on constant prime. First thing I checked was the relay 109 as I know this is for the pump. Noticed it wasn't clicking in so took it out and gave it a tap and it works now!

    Then the inlet temp. I got sick of not being able to take the T42 apart because of this cable so I cut it.
    As I did I found the end of the one I was looking for, it had broken off!
    All back together now and no faults. Both the coolant and inlet temp say -49 with the ignition on but when you start it they kick in and read properly. No fault codes!!!

    Cheers for your help

    Mat
     
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    109 is ecu, pump is 67, 80 or 167 ;)
     
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    car feel any better with the working sensor?
     
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    Well tapping 109 worked, Might have disturbed the others in the process[:$]

    Car seems to start better and idle lightly. Not really driven it to see if anything has made a difference.
    One thing i did notice today was that the water temp did not display on the MFA[:s]
    Saying that i cant remember seeing it there before!

    Just need to find 5th gear now for castle combe:thumbup:
     
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    well you'll never see water temp on mfa cos it doesn't have one :p
    mfa has oil temp, and will display --- till oil gets over 50degrees. the sender should be a small single pin unit in an oil chanel, green/black wire. not sure where it is on a vr but assume its on the filter housing
     
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    That one won't work either as I have disconnected it for the VDO gauge:lol:

    Going to get a t-piece and connect it back up, the VDO gauge is not good enough to take an actual reading.
     

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