115 PD TDI - White smoke from exhaust??

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  1. 1990

    1990 Paid Member Paid Member

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    I was driving along the motorway today in a 2000 X-reg Seat Alhambra and all of a sudden I smoked out the M56 with a mass of white smoke.

    I got recovered off the RAC who dropped the car off at my house. I had to reverse it into a space and again white smoke covered my street. The oil level was low and the coolant temperate had recently been dropping from an indicated 90deg to the resting place on the needle then jumping back up to 90deg.

    Any ideas?
     
  2. Crispy 8V CGTI Committee - Club Secretary Admin

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    Ian, tough one

    least possible fault could be, Temp sender feckek and left suddenly alltered the setting to cold settings , riching it up

    you'd be lucky if it's just that,
    How's the water level?

    Best try to take off part of the exhaust, bottom subframe ( around the cat), seal in the turbo bursts and spits the oil into exhaust which gives a white smoke as heated and blown though, rather than burnt though combustion causing a blue tint [:s]
     
  3. rocco2litre

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    was it in safe mode too? could be turbo seals.
    is hard too tell if smoke is white or blue tinged.
     
  4. 1990

    1990 Paid Member Paid Member

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    The water level is fine but I didn't remove the cap incase it emptied under pressure. The oil is clean.

    The some looks white but could be blue tinged. I'll have a closer look tonight.

    Cheers.
     
  5. rocco2litre

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    bet in alhambra turbo is a right pig to get too, everything on those cars
    is hidden about 4 foot under the scuttle...lol
     
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    Does the car still run ok, or have you not driven it enough to tell? If it sounds like it's missing, you might have holed a piston, but hopefully not!
     
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    Remove one of the boost pipes, good chance it’s the turbo, inside of the boosts pipes will be wet with oil, slight film of oil is ok though. Try and drop a boost pipe off as low as you can, like the bottom of the intercooler, see if the oil runs out
     
  8. StuMc

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    Definately sounds like turbo seals to me...

    I have some fancy tracer fluid that you put in the oil, run the engine, then inspect inside all the pipework with a UV light that will show up the fluid, if it has passed the seals. Have you a UV light?
     
  9. 1990

    1990 Paid Member Paid Member

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    No, I dont have a UV light. It was ****ing it down tonight so I didn't have a chance to look.

    I'll get it on some axle stands and look in the boost pipes and the exhaust. I'll also have a look at the smoke again to see if I can tell the colour a bit better.

    The mileage on it is 122,000 and it did seem a bit rattly thar morning when it was cold.
     
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    it sounds the same as what happened in my non pd golf the oil seals went in that all i will say is clean your intercooler thoroughly before you use the car i didnt and the engine ran on the oil in the intercooler and the engine literally killed it self
     
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    Surely more likely to be head gasket failure on a 115?
     
  12. 1990

    1990 Paid Member Paid Member

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    Would my turbo be the same as a mk4 Golf one?
     
  13. MUSHY 16V

    MUSHY 16V Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    it is the same what code is your engine is it AJM

    the 130bhp may fitt as well but you would need a diffrent boost pipe to the intercooler
    i got one complete for 70 with 60k on it
    have it as a spare

    they are plenty on ebay
    new or extange ones frrom vag are a bit dear
     
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  14. 1990

    1990 Paid Member Paid Member

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    Mine engine is an AUY code but I don't have a clue what the turbo is. Whats yours?
     
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    MUSHY 16V Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    my car is AJM i think the turbo 038253019C
    it looks like this

    [​IMG]

    the spare is 038253016F
    and looks like this

    [​IMG]
     
  16. 1990

    1990 Paid Member Paid Member

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    It looks like I need a Garrett GT1749V (Seat part number 038253019N). Its fitted on loads of different cars but has millions of different part numbers even accross the VW range.

    Surely its the same turbo?

    Any idea what the difference is between the GT1749V and the GT1749VA?
     
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    my seat ibiza one was a special, think because the manifold was part of it.
    although the garrett part number was same as audi/vw etc
     
  19. 1990

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    I just bought 2 turbo's off e-bay. What a dick!!
     
  20. MUSHY 16V

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    which ones did you get
     

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