Ok boys i need 16v advice. since im sticking with this engine. i wanna know what in order i should do thing and what things i should have done. what i will see the most gains. i dont really want to go down the abf 2.0 route as im happy with my engine as it is. i have been looking at 'pack a' heads etc but i just wanna know what i should do first. straight forward things please nothing major. you know the most common things people do tuning a 16v my manifold has died so this is the first thing im getting. what next? Edited by: RECARDO
is it really that much of an advantage....i want to be looking at about 175/180bhp is this not possible with a 1.8kr?
when you say bodies....do you mean throttle bodies? i dont know my car engines that well could you explain what the process is simply?
im not really to fussed if it will get wasted by an abf mk2....i just want a quick mk2 but keeping it as standard as possible. im just refining my car thats all.....
ABF with a deisel crank.....they rev all day long!!! Or get you 1800 lightned balanced and knifedged with some arp bolts. Bolt on a flowed head with some cams, a 4 branch and a good setup. Could always go 1900cc, but would be cheaper to buy a 2litre first as last. Edited by: Hotgolf
so with the cams can you choose what style of car you want....more acceleration....more top end etc. or is it just bigger the cam....more power?
You'd have to chose cams wisely. As Tubs said you'll lose torque from wild cams and achive a peaky engine with all the power in one spot high up the range rather than having a nice drivable engine with a smooth power flow throughout the whole range. All depends on what you want, but pound for pound, dropping in a 2 litre is always going to be a better option money wise. I've just bought another ABF for only 245.
From my experience cams f**k up the 16v in terms of living with it everyday. My cousin went down this route and after 3 months put the standard ones back in as round town it was a pig and it would never start/idle right. His mk2 KR 16v has 170 bhp (TSR rolling road) at the fly with: 4 branch Tubular manifold Jetex exhaust K&N filter element WUR mod polished inlet manifold/head. He lives in the countryside so the car gets really driven in all weathers/through mud/water and has been nothing but reliable for the last 9 years he's had it, apart from blowing the gearbox twice racing BMW M3s. 4 branch manifold does tend to make it a bit raspy but f**k me it flies! Ive heard the throttle bodies route gives good results, and looking at track lap times in TheGolf and Rabbit its usually the 16v's running throttle bodies that set the fastest laps but as i said ive never had experience of them. Edited by: redbaron
Cams, 16v , K-jet? [:^(] Recardo, although with a head and loopy cams you'll get 170-180bhp from a KR , the 2 litre will still br better for a road car with standard cams as it will have 20-30lb/ft more torque. As for refining the standard engine, that's the last thing you'll do if you fit cams.
oh dont get me wrong im not going to get cams......someone above mentioned then and i just asked what they were. im put off by the abf because ill have to change my insurance. but i do like the sound of them.....again how much would it cost to fit one.....do i then need a gear box to match? redbaron i like the sound of those mods. seem a little more attainable.
2 Litre wins everytime, the amount of torque and the spread means its quicker than a 1800. The flowed head could set you back 700 notes , you may be able to get a 2.0 9A for a few hundred pounds. Then phone up your insurance and tell them you have a engine from a Passat GT which is a lower insurance group than the golf. When i did this my insurance went down
