"Death Rattle" - ooo errr

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  1. The db

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    I think I have got the death rattle on my 8v :lol:

    Sounds like the cam belt or tensioners is rattling a bit. Is really loud on cold, but does go away when the car has had a 15-20 minute run at temp. Was planning on changing the cam belt anyway as no history to say when it was last done but presume this is a sign from the gods to stop driving it until I have or it will go snap?!
     
  2. bigben Forum Member

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    I have that I think - does it have quite a rhythmic metallic sound ? I'd always put it down to a sticking tappet.
     
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    Are you sure its not the manifold blowing slightly and when its up to temp the hole is sealing off? I have had the exact same problem before, although mine turned out to be a cracked manifold
     
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    Its not a sticky tappet.

    Its definately belt related. It speeds up with the engine and slows down with the engine. The engine has a bad cold idle whilst the noise is being made, dropping down to 500rpm then revving itself to 2500rpm.

    Oh well if it gets through a few more trips it will be treated to new belts all round and a tensioner next week weather permitting.
     
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    talking about rattles, mine got a massive rattle at about 3500 rpm then nothing, got to be exhaust sheild or some thing, can't be the cam belt cover coz that was rattling so much i took the thing off!
     
  6. StuMc

    StuMc Moderator and Regional Host - Manchester Moderator

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    Sound more like worn tappets to me. If your changing the belt then you may as well go the whole hog and do them as well. Only 50 from GSF. :thumbup:
     
  7. The db

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    Nah no new tappets. The car only cost 300. I'll change the belts as a matter of caution, and because I dont know when they were last done. Throw in some new plugs/oil/filter and then I'll drive it into the ground. Not spending a penny more than I really have to. :lol:
     
  8. rubjonny

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    take the alternator & pas belts off and run it briefly, if the noise goes its alt/waterpump/pas related, if not its tensioner or something more serious :lol:
     
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    No PAS on this one - less to go wrong.
     
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    Could still be the water pump or alternator rattling. Tensioners can get a bit rattly when the bearings are tired too. Lots of things would vary with engine speed, so I wouldn't rule out a leaky manifold (exhaust pulses vary with revs) and so on.

    Have you tried a long screwdriver with the handle against your ear, and the tip on the rocker cover/body of the alternator, etc, to see if you can trace the noise? Obviously, don't put it on any moving parts :o)
     
  11. StuMc

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    That`s a proper old school trick! An old engineer taught me that in the Merchant Navy. Has helped me diagnose many a fault, especially bearings! :thumbup:
     
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    Does the tensioner have a bearing in it (I presume it does if it goes round). I reckon it might be that. It sounds more like a slapping noise at idle (when it idles :lol:) and makes the engine sound like its whining/electric at high speeds.
     

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