Jenvey DTH TB's Linkages/Levers?

Discussion in 'Throttle bodies & non-OEM ECUs' started by Bruce T, Dec 28, 2010.

  1. Bruce T Forum Member

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    Hi all,

    First real post here on the forum. I've been lurking and learning for a while and now the time has come to start with the questions :lol:

    This is slightly long-winded so please bare with me.

    I've just purchased a set of Jenvey DTH throttle bodies. All brand new and never used, complete with fuel rails, airhorns, linkages etc.
    The only snag is that where the bloke bought them direct from Jenvey, I think they have supplied with generic levers and linkages.

    I've been looking at some of the build threads on here and some of the kits supplied by Bill at Badger5 and they seam to be slightly different to the setup I have. Mainly the levers that connect the two bodies.


    These are my bodies and the configuration of the levers.

    Body #1 Primary lever with WOT stop and idle adjustment:

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    Body #1 Another longer lever on the other side (pictured left) and Body #2 with secondary lever and spring retainer clip (circled). The other side of body #2 is blank for TPS.

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    Obviously these levers can be removed a placed at either end of the bodies BUT are directional and can only be fitted one way if that makes sense?

    So this is the only way I can connect the two bodies with the current levers with the longer lever on body #1 connecting to the secondary lever with spring clip on body #2. This leaves the primary lever and idle adjustment on the outside body #1 not connected to anything.

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    With me so far??






    Now, the Jenvey instructions shows the primary lever and idle adjustment on the inside of body #1 which connects to the secondary lever on the inside of body #2.

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    This can also be seen in reverse on Ess-Three's build.

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    I cannot connect mine like this, in any combination.
    Its hard to explain but it seems the lever with the spring retainer (circled in second picture) is wrong. It needs to be a mirror image of what I have at the moment if that makes sense? [:s]


    I've confused myself (and probably you guys aswell now) thinking about this but I guess I need to get my hands on a different lever in order to connect as per the Jenvey instructions? Is this possible? And if so could anyone be able to give me a part number?




    Any advice or pointers much appreciated [:D]


    Cheers,
    Bruce.
     
  2. abf"d mk1 Paid Member Paid Member

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    I have the tps on the cambelt end as thats the way it needs to open, and bill,s 16v linkage on the flywheel end, my connection pieces are similiar to yours but without going out to my dark/cold garage i am not sure if they are the same way round as yours. The centre piece did have a longish sticky out bit which i cut of as i had no use for it.
     
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  3. Bruce T Forum Member

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    Thanks for the reply.
    I dont blame you for not wanting to going out, its horrible out this evening!

    Hopefully Badger 5 maybe be able to shed some light on it.
     
  4. Ess Three Forum Member

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    Have you spoken to Jenvey?
    I found them really helpful, and they changed my levers over to suit my application, free of charge.
    I think I ended up with a similar linkage set-up to you at the start. I emailed them photos of the problems, sent them back and they were swapped and returned within a week. Great service really.

    I run the same set-up as abf"d mk1, with a Badger 5 linkage at the gearbox side and the Jenvey supplied throttle pot on the timing cover side.
     
  5. Bruce T Forum Member

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    Haven't spoken to them yet. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't just having a senior moment :lol:
    Will try to give them a call later. Hopefully it will be straight forward.

    The setup yourself and abf'd mk1 run definitely seems the best way.
    I will have to speak to Badger 5 about getting one of his throttle linkages too. The standard Jenvey linkage doesn't look like it will fit due to the water outlet on the front of the 16v head.

    Thanks for the replies guys :thumbup:
    I'll let you know how I get on.
     
  6. Ess Three Forum Member

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    I couldn't get the Jenvey linkage to fit in any configuration...ended up with Badger Bills kit - which is just perfect.
     
  7. Bruce T Forum Member

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    I guess that's the problem with the Jenvey parts being generic. Will drop Bill a line I think and see if I can get hold of one of his linkages. I guess email would is the best way to contact him?

    Just tried calling Jenvey but got no answer so i'll drop them an email i think.

    Cheers,
    Bruce.
     
  8. Brookster

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    Badger 5 Throttle linkage is the best one .

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    The standard throttle cable fits fine
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    Mounted spacer
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    Throttle cable lined up correctly
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  9. Bruce T Forum Member

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    Definitely looks to be the most straight forward setup.

    Will email him yet about getting one in a minute. Any ideal on price?
    Also does the kit include the spacer shown in your setup Brookster?
     
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    Yes kit comes with spacer, Bill is a specialist on the Jenvey VW DTH so he will know exactley what you need. :thumbup:
     
  11. Bruce T Forum Member

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    Awesome!
    I've just emailed him about it and also the parts needed for the vacuum take-off shown in your build thread Brookster.

    Thanks for the help chaps! :thumbup:
     
  12. chrismc Forum Junkie

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    My old car had one of Bills linkage kits.

    Needs careful setting up & the grub screws are not the best way of securing it all up IMO. Just a wee bit fragile.

    The centre adjuster between the bodies is for balancing each pair of bodies to each other. Each ITB has a separate air bleed for setting up the idle airflows with a synchrometer too:thumbup:
     
  13. badger5

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    if you send the bodies back to jenvey and ask for bs2 build spec linkage for badger5, then my throttle mech will work..
    108 +vat for my mechs
    regards
    bill
     
  14. Bruce T Forum Member

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    Brilliant, thanks Bill.

    I've emailed Jenvey and I'm just waiting for a reply. Will mention this to them :thumbup:
    I'll let you know how I get on and order up the linkage from you once I get it sorted.

    Thanks again!
     
  15. badger5

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    grub screws work just fine on dozens of these kits.. pulley is deliberately not bitten down onto flats ground onto the shaft to allow for adjustment and alos slippage for those who will over tighten the preload on the cable and force the bodies open against the stop, which can stress the uj breaking it.
     

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