Ok, So I have a K-Jet mk1....and a KE-Jet(?) 2L 16V Passat. The aim being to wack the 9A into the Golf. I'm getting a bit confused as to what I need for the conversion...Engine wise. Ok, so exhaust manifold is a given, but what do I do about the inj system? Guides i've seen seem to suggest I need the mk2 golf, (so K-jet), T/B, Metering Head, ECU and ECU loom....? But why? I know nothing about the differences between KE and K, I don't want to be buying bits for no reason though! Ideally I want to keep as much of the mk1 stuff in there as possible, just to make life easier. Can anyone shed any light on this? Bearing in mind I already have the full KE set up in the passat (am driving it at the mo!) Dave Edited by: ManicGTI
If you've got the full Motronic (Passat) stuff I'd be tempted to fit that. It's got knock sensing and other fancy guff. Duff's got it fitted into his mk2 I think.
So would process of fitting be the same? The Passat is a K-reg GL Estate, 2L 16V.. I assumed it was KE-jet . Is Motronic a dif system?. ie can I still follow the guidelines that the (many!) peeps that have fitted the K-jet system? On a similar note...Peoplehave said 'use the mk1 loom, ditch the isv'. What loom are they refering to? to use the mk1 ECU and Loom with mk2 metering head and t/b? If I can do it all with what I already have obv i'd be happiest
For ease of fitting use all your mk1 items with a mk2 16v ecu with the mk1 aux air valve. But use the KE if you can seperate the loom and will run lambda there is only about 5 wires to connect up i can do a guide, ke is good for running on any grade of petrol and getting very simular power k-jet K jet will give a little more power in the right hands Depends how good you are with looms and stuff really i guess
mk1 items? I would still need mk2 metering head, T/B, and ECU loom though? yay/nay? hmm.....5 wires sounds simple compared to spending random money on bits n bobs i dont really 'need'. Lambda goes where, welded bracket into exhasut somewhere? how much are we talking? you have some nice figure on yrs, headwork? i 'dont think' i'll be too bad, am pretty logical with these kinda things, but have never attempted a conversion before.
Wouldn't want to put you out, if you have a spare mo I would be interested see whats involved . Would be good to have these things to go into FAQ anyway, theres been so many mk1 16v wiring Qs over past X months about time the options were compiled. No worries if you can be bottomd , if K-jet is easier maybe i should walk then run etc...
I Used the mk1 loom and air bypass valve,then just added the 16v ignition loom and ecu as this only has approx 3 wires to connect. The mk1 gti has all the same plugs as the kr 16v except the dizzy plug so that why you use the 16v ignition loom.
mk1 items? I would still need mk2 metering head, T/B, and ECU loom though? yay/nay? ----------- You don`t need a mk2 metering head i did a mk1 16v conversion and used all the mk1 bits, you can mod the wiring out of the passat throttle body to work with the mk2 16v ECU it only needs a throttle closed switch for the ISV hmm.....5 wires sounds simple compared to spending random money on bits n bobs i dont really 'need'. Lambda goes where, welded bracket into exhasut somewhere? ----------- Yeah true if you have all the items you may as well use them all saves some cash and have a system you know did work. Yeah lambda is easy to fit you can get kits to put them on exhaust , i used a kit for a nissan :-) K jet will give a little more power in the right hands how much are we talking? you have some nice figure on yrs, headwork? ----------- Well mine has a standard head and only difference is a corrado ECU with a chip , schrick 260`s and exhaust stuff, You will need to bin the cams and get some KR items or better, i think you only need inlet cam. When i took mine to stealth where that figure is from. Vince reckoned it could give another 8bhp if it was running k-jet then you can do the WUR mod and advance the timing more Depends how good you are with looms and stuff really i guess i 'dont think' i'll be too bad, am pretty logical with these kinda things, but have never attempted a conversion before. ---------------- I shall start doing a guide on this as i have lots of pictures and stuff to use from when i did it Will have it done friday i reckon If you do install the lot your have the diagnostic ports for VAG com working so if you have a laptop and VAG com your be able to aid your install buy checking for faults codes etc Edited by: dUff
Thanks for the tips I'm taking from that that best options are either KE-jet move whole system over, or use all mk1 bits, but with mk2 ECU/ignition loom. and of course the KR cams. That shouldn't cost too much, will see whos breaking what and how much they're after and go from there If i can get for not much then i'll have both systems here in case it goes pete tong....
do you have a diagram of how you wired this?? ie. what do I need to connect/disconnect. how does it run without the ISV then?? I know it will be easier but I don't want my car to keep cutting out!!