KE Jet / K Jet in mk1 16V?....

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  1. ManicGTI Forum Member

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    Ok, So I have a K-Jet mk1....and a KE-Jet(?) 2L 16V Passat. The aim being to wack the 9A into the Golf.

    I'm getting a bit confused as to what I need for the conversion...Engine wise. Ok, so exhaust manifold is a given, but what do I do about the inj system?

    Guides i've seen seem to suggest I need the mk2 golf, (so K-jet), T/B, Metering Head, ECU and ECU loom....? But why?

    I know nothing about the differences between KE and K, I don't want to be buying bits for no reason though! Ideally I want to keep as much of the mk1 stuff in there as possible, just to make life easier.

    Can anyone shed any light on this? Bearing in mind I already have the full KE set up in the passat (am driving it at the mo!)

    Dave
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  2. greg s Forum Member

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    If you've got the full Motronic (Passat) stuff I'd be tempted to fit that. It's
    got knock sensing and other fancy guff. Duff's got it fitted into his mk2 I
    think.
     
  3. ManicGTI Forum Member

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    So would process of fitting be the same?

    The Passat is a K-reg GL Estate, 2L 16V.. I assumed it was KE-jet [:$]. Is Motronic a dif system?.

    ie can I still follow the guidelines that the (many!) peeps that have fitted the K-jet system?


    On a similar note...Peoplehave said 'use the mk1 loom, ditch the isv'. What loom are they refering to? to use the mk1 ECU and Loom with mk2 metering head and t/b?

    If I can do it all with what I already have obv i'd be happiest :)
     
  4. Quasar Forum Member

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    KE jetronic also has knock-sensing... Dunno which is better overall, though...
     
  5. dUff

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    For ease of fitting use all your mk1 items with a mk2 16v ecu with the mk1 aux air valve.

    But use the KE if you can seperate the loom and will run lambda there is only about 5 wires to connect up i can do a guide, ke is good for running on any grade of petrol and getting very simular power k-jet

    K jet will give a little more power in the right hands

    Depends how good you are with looms and stuff really i guess
     
  6. ManicGTI Forum Member

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    mk1 items? I would still need mk2 metering head, T/B, and ECU loom though? yay/nay?

    hmm.....5 wires sounds simple compared to spending random money on bits n bobs i dont really 'need'. Lambda goes where, welded bracket into exhasut somewhere?

    how much are we talking? you have some nice figure on yrs, headwork?

    i 'dont think' i'll be too bad, am pretty logical with these kinda things, but have never attempted a conversion before.
     
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    Wouldn't want to put you out, if you have a spare mo I would be interested see whats involved [:$].

    Would be good to have these things to go into FAQ anyway, theres been so many mk1 16v wiring Qs over past X months about time the options were compiled.

    No worries if you can be bottomd :), if K-jet is easier maybe i should walk then run etc...
     
  8. flusted Forum Member

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    I Used the mk1 loom and air bypass valve,then just added the 16v ignition loom and ecu as this only has approx 3 wires to connect.
    The mk1 gti has all the same plugs as the kr 16v except the dizzy plug so that why you use the 16v ignition loom.
     
  9. dUff

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    mk1 items? I would still need mk2 metering head, T/B, and ECU loom though? yay/nay?
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    You don`t need a mk2 metering head i did a mk1 16v conversion and used all the mk1 bits, you can mod the wiring out of the passat throttle body to work with the mk2 16v ECU it only needs a throttle closed switch for the ISV



    hmm.....5 wires sounds simple compared to spending random money on bits n bobs i dont really 'need'. Lambda goes where, welded bracket into exhasut somewhere?
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    Yeah true if you have all the items you may as well use them all saves some cash and have a system you know did work. Yeah lambda is easy to fit you can get kits to put them on exhaust , i used a kit for a nissan :-)

    K jet will give a little more power in the right hands
    how much are we talking? you have some nice figure on yrs, headwork?
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    Well mine has a standard head and only difference is a corrado ECU with a chip , schrick 260`s and exhaust stuff, You will need to bin the cams and get some KR items or better, i think you only need inlet cam.
    When i took mine to stealth where that figure is from. Vince reckoned it could give another 8bhp if it was running k-jet then you can do the WUR mod and advance the timing more


    Depends how good you are with looms and stuff really i guess
    i 'dont think' i'll be too bad, am pretty logical with these kinda things, but have never attempted a conversion before.
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    I shall start doing a guide on this as i have lots of pictures and stuff to use from when i did it
    Will have it done friday i reckon

    If you do install the lot your have the diagnostic ports for VAG com working so if you have a laptop and VAG com your be able to aid your install buy checking for faults codes etc
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  10. ManicGTI Forum Member

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    Thanks for the tips :)

    I'm taking from that that best options are either KE-jet move whole system over, or use all mk1 bits, but with mk2 ECU/ignition loom.

    and of course the KR cams.

    That shouldn't cost too much, will see whos breaking what and how much they're after and go from there [:D] If i can get for not much then i'll have both systems here in case it goes pete tong....
     
  11. Gareth83 Forum Junkie

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    do you have a diagram of how you wired this?? ie. what do I need to connect/disconnect.

    how does it run without the ISV then?? I know it will be easier but I don't want my car to keep cutting out!! [:$]
     

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