Master cylinder - too many ports 8v GTi

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  1. nic-clark Forum Member

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    Hi,

    I need to replace the master cylinder on my '91 GTi 8v. I've bought a new one from euro parts. The new one has two bottle holes and 6 ports - 2 on each side and two on the bottom. From what I can see, my master cylinder only has 2 ports - left hand side as you look from the front.

    There are no blanks in the box and I am wondering if 4 holes plus a bottle hole is too many to blank and I perhaps have the wrong part?

    Anyone know what to do? [:s]
     
  2. BennyC Paid Member Paid Member

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    If its got 2 ports either side (4) and the 2 for the bottle then just put 2 bleed nipples in the spare ports its what I did!! Seems strange its got 6 as well as the 2 for bottle prob wrong one!
     
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    It's a Padgid part like this one -

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    2 on top, two each side and bottle ports on top. It's listed on halfords and ecp as the correct part but I am sure it's wrong. Time to take it back!

    Thanks!
     
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    Use a bleed nipple or two in the spare holes
    Jon
     
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    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    they have sold you a mk1 master cylinder, or summat else random. mk2 ones are either be 2 or 4 ports. as above if you end up with 4 ports block the spares with bleed nipples, generally a decent make will come with proper blanks to do the job
     
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    That's exactly what it said on the box - Golf MK1. It has been duly returned.

    When you say upgrade - will this make the braking better? (Sorry for being thick) Everything else is brand new and standard. It's kind of a no brainer as they don't have stock of the direct replacement anyway!

    Thanks!
     
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    Yes the 16v master cylinder is a bigger bore than the 8v one. Gives a nice firm pedal essential if used with the later 16v bigger brakes or g60 280mm brakes should you wish to go bigger later on.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification - it's ordered and on the list to do at the weekend :thumbup:
     
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    Thanks everyone - works a treat! Getting the reservoir bottle on really hurt :o

    Just as an aside - how far should the pedal go before the braking starts - it's really firm so I don't think there's any air, but travels a little further than I would like, I'm guessing this isn't adjustable?
     
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    yeah you cant adjust the biting point, the clevis pin o nthe servo to pedal joint will only change the height of the pedal. once the air is out thats all you can do!
     
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    Horrible weather for it right now, but you could try checking/setting up the rear callipers. If they're not right wound out right it will affect the pedal. Do late 8v have 16v front brakes? Otherwise a 22.2mm M/C is a downgrade.
     
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    I'll def check the rear calipers when the weather is kinder - supposed to be good this weekend :) ...

    The rear calipers are new as are pads. Not sure what front brakes it has, but replaced the master cylinder with a 16v one anyway. I need to check the balance valve too, the spring is movable when the car is empty but I think it might be a little too loose. It stops well though - straight and pretty quick, just an inch or two of play before.
     
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    All 8v's had the same small 239mm brakes. :thumbup:
     
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    If your pads are literally brand new, it can take a little time for them to bed in, which will in turn bring the biting point up a little. Make sure you bleed the master cylinder too, release the 2 blanking plugs until fluid steadily streams out, trapped air here cant escape and will make the pedal travel further.
     

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