Obd1 and obd2 wiring help

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  1. francescodenetto Forum Member

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    Hi

    I have a vr6 obd1 (with coilpack engine)
    I have a 021 906 258 af ecu
    But i have a golf 3 vr6 obd2 engine wiring harness

    Does anyone have got some schematics to fit obd2 wiring harness into obd1 engine?

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  2. powernut Forum Member

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    Surely easier using obd1 ecu ..?
     
  3. francescodenetto Forum Member

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    021 906 258 af is it obd1 ecu?

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  4. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    021906258af is 'middle' ISV type ecu, so that runs a coilpack plus 5/6 pin MAF. 'early' ISV ecu has a distributor, and 'late' ISV ecu runs a 4 pin MAF.

    converting a late motorised tb loom to isv type loom requires a fair bit of pin swapping and addition, so you have to be pretty desperate to do it! personally I would use the loom you have and get the right ecu to match
     
  5. Toyotec

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    No it is not.

    It is a EU Bosch M2.9.1 ECU with HFM 5 type MAF and older ISV.
     
  6. francescodenetto Forum Member

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    My vr6 is aaa with coilpack

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  7. francescodenetto Forum Member

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    My problem is engine compartment wiring harness...i don't know where its comes from.. so i have to buy a correct wiring harness for my engine and ecu...for maf i can buy 5/6 pin maf

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    ^^ All the 2.8 Golf 3/Passat 31/3A /Corrado engines were coded AAA.
    The control electronics did change 3 times between 91 and 98.
     
  9. rubjonny

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    for the ecu you have you need a main engine bay harness with a 5 pin maf plug that does NOT have a 3 pin coilpack plug on it, plus the correct engine part to match so one with the coilpack plug on it plus an ISV plug and 3 pin TPS
     
  10. francescodenetto Forum Member

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    Where i can found it?

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    theres the rub :lol:

    keep your eyes open on the classifieds, ebay, facebook groups etc. If you have a post-96 complete engine and wiring harness with the motorised throttle body though its probably easier to get the right ecu to match it all
     
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    as i say it is possible to convert the looms but its a lot of work, it took me best part of an evening to convert late ISV loom with 4 pin maf to post-96 electric throttle body type loom
     
  13. Toyotec

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    For post August 95 Mk3s, you need ECU number #021906256 V02/04 ECU to match the loom.
    The ECU will need the immo to be switched off or married with the key/imo in car if fitted.
    You also need a water cooled 70mm VDO throttle module as the ECU controls the air adaptive at lower speeds.
    A 4 wire HFM 5 MAF
    The PCV system is also different coming into the bespoke plastic air duct.
     
  14. francescodenetto Forum Member

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    But with my ecu #021 906 258 AF what wiring loom is correct??

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  15. Toyotec

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    One from a MK3 Golf VR6 after 93 and before August 95.
     
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    Thanks a lot..its fit into 5 wire MAF and coilpack engine (so it's ok for my engine if i change my maf)

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