Remember how G60 roll bars used to be cheap from VAG?

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  1. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Well heres a replacement from the MK3 Ibiza. Get in there quick before VAG realise and bump the price up :lol:

    6K5 411 309 - 20mm bar - 38.19+VAT (uses MK2 inner bush)
    6K0 411 309 A - 23mm bar 'for sports type running gear' - 40.44+VAT (uses MK3 inner bush)

    191 411 314 - mk2 inner mount - 2.58+VAT or:
    http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=496

    1H0 411 314 - mk3 inner mount - 3.77+VAT or:
    http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=515

    However:
    6K0 411 315 - drop link - 21.07+VAT Ouch!!
    But, AVS list this part number to be the same as the G60 drop link, available at muchos discountings:
    http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=741

    The MK3 biza uses a MK3 subframe and MK2 wishbones, so it should fit any MK2/3 Golf 4 stud chassis, or a MK3 5 stud chassis with Passat 5 stud wishbones :thumbup:
     
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  2. NEIL KAYE

    neil kaye Forum Junkie

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    would the above roll bar be a good enough upgrade for when someone does a vr conversion if they want to keep the four stud set up
     
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  3. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    at least as good as a G60 roll bar upgrade, but not as good as an aftermarket kit such as eibach, h&r etc.
    pretty cheap from vag though :thumbup:

    the 23mm bar above I think is that thick pretty much all the way along, whereas the G60 bar tapers out towards the ends. I'm not sure if that would make it stiffer than a G60 bar but I guess it would? Also depends what it made of and the overall shape I guess.
     
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    [simpleton mode] How do those two compare to the front ARB on my mk2 1.8 Driver? significantly larger/stiffer? [/simpleton mode]
    And is it just arb + droplinks + the G60 inner ARB bushes? so about 60 squid + vat for the lot?
     
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  5. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    your oem driver arb is 18mm, so a large amount of extra beefiness.

    yup thats all you'll need, you re-use the old inner bush clamps. just a case of having to drop the subby a bit to swap it all over.
     
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  6. DRUNKENALAN

    drunkenalan Paid Member Paid Member

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    jonny could i use the 23mm ARB with my 4 stud widetrack setup?
     
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  7. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    yep!

    edit: in theory :lol:

    It should fit, as i say biza uses mk2 wishbones and mk3 subby, mk2/3 arb bushes n drop links etc so the shape should be right. unless theres summat odd about the biza shell that makes a difference. pretty sure its the same though. My gf has a MK3 biza so could have a shufti...
     
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  8. DRUNKENALAN

    drunkenalan Paid Member Paid Member

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    my setup is mk2 subframe, mk3 4 stud wishbones, at the minute i have a mk2 gti ARB so an upgrade would be nice
     
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    Mike_H Forum Addict

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    Don't they do a diesel Ibiza one that's even thicker? 28mm springs to mind.
     
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    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    those are the thickest sizes listed on etka for the MK3 ibiza. diesels got the 23mm :)
     
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    So basically i need to order;

    6K0 411 309 A

    1H0 411 314 x2

    And a pair of G60 toplinks from GSF?

    And if i've got the space to go 4-stud wide track with the compomotives on this would all still work with passat 4-stud wishbones (and the longer track rods of course)
     
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  12. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    pretty much, can get the inner bushes from avs, maybe gsf too?
    http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=515

    as above i can see no reason why theyu wont fit, just if the seat has some kind of oddity with the bodyshell. the subby & bones all suggest the arb should fit right on though :)
     
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  13. WillG

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    I'm sure the 23mm bar is the same I got a seat inca 1.9d van. (polo/ibiza based?)

    same diameter all the way along, just need the bars that have an offset and a slight cutting of the inner bushes to make them fit.
     
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  14. DRUNKENALAN

    drunkenalan Paid Member Paid Member

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    could i use g60 inner mounts?
     
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  15. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    you need the MK3 1H0 inner mounts I listed above, those have a thicker hole in for the larger diameter bar. g60 inner bushes are the same as normal MK2 ones
     
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  16. DRUNKENALAN

    drunkenalan Paid Member Paid Member

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    NLA

    The roll bar is NLA, I ordered one last friday, and was told i have to wait a week or so to get one, then I got a phone call yesterday saying that thay are NLA and will stay that way.
     
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  17. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    wtf, the car isnt even 10 years old, muppets [:x]

    there is this one - 6K0 411 309 but vag-cat cant see a price anymore either, so prob disconnedc. iirc when it did have a price it was much more expensive than the other part number.
     
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  18. DRUNKENALAN

    drunkenalan Paid Member Paid Member

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    Can you still buy g60 ones?
     
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    191 411 309 C - 82.34+vat
     
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    drunkenalan Paid Member Paid Member

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    ouch!
     
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