The 3.2 sump on a VR6 thread

Discussion in 'VR5, VR6 & Wx' started by PhatVR6, Feb 17, 2008.

  1. PhatVR6 Forum Junkie

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    As promised, I had a look at fitting the Audi 3.2 sump on the VR.

    I've heard of people fitting the R32 sump, but that's pointless, as the mk4 R32 sump is the same as the 4motion one, and literally just an alloy version of the VR6 one.

    The audi 3.2 one however (and the mk5 R32 I guess, don't know for sure) is shallower, and baffled from the factory.

    Here goes.

    Firstly, bear in mind this is a damaged sump. The plank who removed the engine from the A3 just dropped it, and smashed the sump to bits...cheers for that...

    Here's the plastic baffle. well, half of it, the other bit was smashed off. It's normally bolted in.
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    sat next to the VR sump
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    Early VR6 rubber gasket laid over it just to show the bolt pattern is identical.

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    You don't actually need a gasket as it's a machined surface, so just use a sealant.

    VR depth on the back corner

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    compared to the 3.2 sump (allow an extra 5mm as this one is flattened)

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    and at the plug
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    I offered it up to the engine, but as I feared, the vr6 oil pump is too long, so you need the 3.2 one (which is the same, but has a shorter pickup.

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    note how the capacity is retained with this section at the back
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    part numbers and prices to follow.
     
  2. altern8 Forum Junkie

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    the alloy ones crack really easy so might not be that good for lowered cars
     
  3. PhatVR6 Forum Junkie

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    that's the point of fitting a shallower one......
     
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    Good post Paul, as the Welsh one says above though, the alloy sumps do crack easily.

    Sump guard req'd!!
     
  5. GVK

    GVK Paid Member Paid Member

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    Good point :) What do you do about the oil sensor in the sump tho?
     
  6. PhatVR6 Forum Junkie

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    nothing, just leave it there blocking the hole up.

    it'd probably be easier to fit a sump guard to this one, as the sump is shallower it sits almost in line with the bottom of the subframe

    you can see the wishbones mount in the bottom left corner of this pic.

    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb114/phatvr6/DSC05696.jpg

    imagine the sump bolted up that extra 10mm and the sump doesn't protrude lower than the subframe.
     
  7. GVK

    GVK Paid Member Paid Member

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    Any ideas on prices for these bits, my ETOS needs re-installing.
     
  8. PhatVR6 Forum Junkie

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    lots

    i can't see audi being cheap....
     
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    ALready making this a sticky subject on VR6OC as I think its a great thread. but has has been said it aint gonna be cheap from Audi.
     
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    That looks very interesting. It will be nice (or not) to see how much they do cost. :)
     
  11. Andy947 Forum Addict

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    Nice

    Reckon i need one of these for the 2.8 in the MK2, it sits stupidly low!
     
  12. rubjonny

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    ok dont quote me on these because I'm an audi novice, but I've been able to dig out these prices/part #s. (it is the BDB,BMJ,BUB engine codes we're looking at right?)

    Early >>8P-6A250 000 or >>8P-6B025 000 S3:
    022 103 603 L - sump with opening for oil level sensor - deleted?
    N 908 132 01 - sump plug w/ seal M14x1.5x22-TC-S20 - deleted?
    N 101 244 08 - sump bolt, M6x20 - 0.37+VAT x 26

    Late >> 8P-7-000 001 S3:
    022 103 601 R - sump with oil level sensor - 81.98
    N 911 014 01 - sump plug w/ seal, M14x1.5x22-TC-S20 - 1.08
    N 106 211 01 - sump bolt, M6x20 - deleted?

    Random other bits:
    D 176 404 A2 - silicone sealant, oil sump, '93G' - 14.04+VAT
    D 176 501 A1 - silicone sealant, sealing flange, '50ML front & rear' - 11.85+VAT
    1J0 907 660 C - oil level sensor w/ seal - 54.49
    N 104 720 01 - oil level sender bolt, M6x28 - deleted? x3

    edit: the sump is also listed for the 06-07 Golf & EOS, engine code BUB :)
     
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