Trigger wheels, oem and aftermarket

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  1. Tristan

    Tristan Paid Member Paid Member

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    some time back there was a thread about trigger wheels on 16v engines. I can't seem to find the thread though. some voted for using the abf oe trigger on the crank, more the aftermarket solution on the front pulley, and a few others suggested using one integrated into the rear crank seal
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    I'm trying to decide which to use, on a couple of builds, one being a high rpm screamer
     
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    I'm trying to figure this out myself at the moment! What engine are you using? KR or ABF
    I've looked into the rear 60-2 seal and flange but it is expensive and the engine is still in the car running at the moment so evolves stripping the engine box
    I've bought a bottom end and damper to mock up a trigger wheel to fit to the damper and make a sensor mount, when I get round to it I'll get a few trigger wheels made anyway
     
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    Ford 36-2 generic for me onto the crank pulley
    Jon
     
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    Tristan Paid Member Paid Member

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    One is an Abf in a mk2, the owner likes neat and tidy oem solutions, the other is my 06b ally block. Same architecture as 1.8t.
    Gurds had a problem with his pressed metal wheel iirc, but again, iirc there was a feeling that was a failure of the screws after being released tightened.
    I've some exotic bottom end bits I'd like to stay the shape that are!
     
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    My first attempt in 99 used M4 screws, this failed at rally 3. Lesson learnt. M5 loctited and some instant metal onto the exposed threads.
    Live an learn
    Jon
     
  7. Tristan

    Tristan Paid Member Paid Member

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    Big rpms Jon?
     
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    It was a full lumenition system on 45 bodies, think the soft cut was set to 7800, from memory.
    Really sweet revving 9A, usual full race spec
    Jon
     
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    Gurds had a failure of the OEM ABF flywheel, suspected due to reuse.

    The 60 - 2 press on items work very well. We have a number of dealers using them up to 9500 RPM on 800+ hp drag cars. They are preferred over the OEM 1.8t design as these have failed at 8500 RPM+.

    Ford is normally 36 - 1? 36 - 2 is a Toyota standard.

    I have a 36 - 1 trigger welded on to my front pulley. 10 years old, still going strong. Not as neat as what's available these days, but the car is never going to be a show car. lol

    My recommendation for any high revving engine (8000 rpm + ) would be the press on item. No balancing to worry about. If fitted as per the instructions, they are bullet proof.
     
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    Tristan Paid Member Paid Member

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    Which is the 60-2 press on item Alex? I'm pushing him to buy the ecu from you, so your input is welcome.
     
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    corrected, yes 36-1, my poor memory
    Jon
     
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    :thumbup:

    They one integrated in to the rear seal. Like these:
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    I use this one one my 16vT :) works great :) i see more and more use them on 5syl 20v engines :)
    i strongly recomend lending/buying the VW tool for mounting this :) my method of using misc bits of wood and a old flywheel is not recomended ;)

    edit: you will also need to grind a little slot in the block to guide the cable out ;)
     
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    Tristan Paid Member Paid Member

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    I thought they came with an alignment tool?
     
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    just an plastic alignment tab to keep it from moving before putting it in the tool :)
     
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    Tidy we spoke about using them on the forum a good few years back glad to see they are now proven to work well
     
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    I've just bought one for 40 from eBay genuine VW
     
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