What do you guys know about this Mystical engine? A59?

mmm Recaro A8's

pete

 

Hos the hell did they get an 86mm bore in a VW 827 style block!! I'm guessing they were using the ABF head and stock bore spacing

 

Didn't tsr once make one of those square bores before?

It had a small cc but revved like hell & had quite a bit of hp for the cc.

 

Forget where I found these photos on the net, but here's the A59 engine which I've hosted:

 

A59 ?

I'm doing some research for an article on the A59

Obviously I have some contacts through proper VW channels, but this is one of those specialist subjects where enthusiasts often have or know of information not generally available at a normal PR level

If so I'd be interested to hear from you

please email me at Neil.Birkitt@autometrix.co.uk


cheers

Neil Birkitt
Editor, Volkswagen Driver magazine

 

everything you need to know!

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=go...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

 

^^^ as above Neil. If you ever find/get your hands on one at VW Driver I'll pop over and have a peek.

Specs (copy & pasted), taken from http://www.faltdach.net/vwgolfa59.htm

Engine: 2L 16V four-cylinder engine with 275 HP (202 kW) at 6000rpm, 375nm at 3500rpm, katalysator, 6 speed gearbox, Bosch Digifant injection-system, with an KKK-turbo, bore 86,0 , stroke 86,0

Drive: Permanent all-wheel-drive with viscous coupling

Length: 4020 mm
Width: 1770 mm
Height : 1400mm

Wheelbase: 2475 mm
Turning circle 10,6 m

Wheels 8 J x 16
Tires 205/50 ZR 16

Weight: Weight when empty 1373 kg

Maximum speed: 250Km/h
Acceleration: 0-100 km/h 4,2s

 

Xtrac gearbox:

http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72936&page=18&highlight=golf+A59

 

http://www.ngpracing.com/gallery/view.php?gid=16&page=1

Taken from here

 

i thought he was talking about the road and was going to move it to general chat

 

coming soon is another trick thread...
























Called "M3"

 

Bump for an imminent Club GTI grey matter meltdown!

Engine dimensions: 86mm x 86mm.

Was it a VW EA827 block at all?

 

For the love of Jesus, stop Chris, stopppppppppppp computer says nooooooo

I saw this thread a long time ago and tried to forget about it...

BG

 

believed to be an A59 engine, 86x86 mm / lehmann build for Lemans ROC/Reynard car

 

Ooh... that's not a VW engine at all!

It even looks alloy blocked? But the round breather looks like the one off the small VW engines or the Audi engines.

I can't see how those dimensions could ever be a VW engine - any more details Hugo?

 

Not that much is known , but remember it was on 86x 86 mm

In LMP class a clean sheet engine design is allowed,
with the same bore / stroke as the A59 engine there is good chance that
the A59 was the base engine to start with or Cilinderhead or Block were used.
(and these were already available)

Used in a Reynard chassis / Run by Team ROC / LMP675 class
Reynard 2KQ early cars used a VW engine with alloy block

http://www.racingsportscars.com/make/photo/Reynard.html see cars 33 / 34 / 53 / 54

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=56616&FS=ALMS-LEMANS
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/reynard2kq-lm.html
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/trap00.html

 

It could be from the South African market, they do some weird prototype **** over there. Just a guess though??

 

Very weird stuff there, almost bespoke engines for Le Mans type vehicles being reverse engineered.

I wonder what alloy block this was. Was there a VW block around at the time, fitting the description?

Interestingly that's an abbreviation sorted out:

 

Indeed! And the thinking from the Touring car thread is 85mm is the maximum we've ever seen, + we don't believe those blocks are legit blocks, and Kit Cars are on 84mm, which are supposed to be legit.

So hence the Q, is this an EA827 block at all.

From what HPR is saying, it's racing-derived alloy block from Reynard.

 

The only VW block on 86 mm bore , is from the A59
and were already build for motorsport use
Where these Steel or alloy block ?
someone ever seen pics about this engine outside the car ?

maybe above engines were only build for lemans racing
or a rebadged engine with VW logo ?