0 Compression in No. 4

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  1. VR6Will Forum Member

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    Yesterday driving the golf i lost all power and smoke blowing out the exhaust [:^(]

    today i have done a compression test to see what might be wrong, in cylinders 1,2 & 3 i have a good 180 psi, in cylinder 4 i get 0 psi!!

    i have taken the cam cover off to see if there is anything obvious but nothing, next step i think is to drop the sump and have a look there!

    there is no signs of oil in the water and the oil is clean, doubt its headgasket anyway as it was a meatl head gasket done about 20k miles ago

    anyone know what might be wrong??
     
  2. Riley

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    possibly a broken ring/oil scraper? [:s]
    can you hook an airline upto the cylinder? :)
     
  3. VR6Will Forum Member

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    airline into cylinder? hmmmm, not really very easy for me [:^(]

    dropped the sump nothing looks broken there.... think maybe a broken ring like you said riley or maybe even a bent valve,

    any other checks i can make without taking the head off?

    and another thing - when i took the spark plugs out they were quite oily [:s]
     
  4. Riley

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    how many plugs were oily?
    if just no. 4 then it 'could be a broken ring?

    not sure of any other checks,not too mechanically minded myself [:$]

    have you done wet and dry compression tests? :)
     
  5. VR6Will Forum Member

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    all of the plugs were fairly oily, - not excessive but enough for me to think its worth mentioning,

    not done wet compression test - think ill go do that now! [:D]
     
  6. Riley

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    ahh you know how to do it? :thumbup:
    i fekin dont :lol:

    pour a little oil in the plug holes i think...
     
  7. VR6Will Forum Member

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    well didnt get a chance to do wet compression test this evening, [:$]

    will see what that shows tomorrow...
     
  8. Riley

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    yeah,i think its something you should try :)
    maybe it is the head gasket? or killed a valve???

    were you giving it some stick at the time?
     
  9. VR6Will Forum Member

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    possibilty its HG, doubt it tho cos it was a new metal one only 20k miles ago when the new head was fitted, bent valve, again possible but then i thought the 8v has was a non-interference head/block,

    wasnt driving it that hard, its been driven harder before! [:$]
     
  10. Riley

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    maybe its burnt a valve m8? [:s]

    will find out when the head comes off :thumbup:
     
  11. VR6Will Forum Member

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    could have, put the head was new only 20k miles ago - TSR pack A [:s]
     
  12. Riley

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    mmmmm? will be interesting to find out [:D]

    wheres all the brains on here? [:x] :lol:
     
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    Was it still running even after it happened? I doubt its a valve tbh, my guess is its a ring or the head gasket has gone. Heads going to have to come off either way really.
     
  14. VR6Will Forum Member

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    was running when it happened and after, started it this morning, just ran on 3 cylinders... will take the head off perhaps tomorrow
     
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    once the head is off, I'm sure all will be clear
     
  16. TheSecondComing Forum Addict

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    My money is on a burnt valve.....
     
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    Or a hole in the piston, but you'd hear that
     
  18. smithy Forum Member

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    Actually, I think you're probably right. Just read that hes got 0psi, if it was a ring or the HG it would probably read a few PSI at least.
     
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    Before you pull the head off you checked all the tappets, right ? There isn't just one sticking down ?

    Oily plugs across all 4 pots and a cloud of smoke would indicate something more sinister than a stuck tappet or even a burnt or bent valve.....making the hole in piston theory more plausable. To get 0 compression you should be able to see the hole from underneath now the sump is off and bits of metal welded to the top of the piston when you stick a torch down the spark plug hole.
     
  20. Dave J Forum Member

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    I had a proken piston ring(or two) on my Jetta recently [:^(] , did a dry compression test and the broken ones gave a low reading (but not zero), Then did a wet test and it the compression shot up! Tis all sorted now... Hope that helps. :)
     

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