aftermarket ECUs

ok, i know most of you on here run GTis,VRs and so on,
but my 6N (MK4) Polo has a granny beating 75bhp
1.6 8v small block.

now i have grand plans for it(but lets not go into that)
and they include the use of an aftermarket ECU.
since i will be taking the car of the road end of this next year
for the 05 season, i was thinking of somthing to put me on for now.

the aftermarket ECU sprung to mind, as it does not require much mechanical messing about
and i think im right in thinking 75bhp from a 1.6 8v MPI
is down on what it should easily be making.

so would anyone think running round on an emerald with base map for a while would be benificial?

TIA

 

dont think anyone knows.

 

what is the small block? the 1595 or the 1598?

 

1598, why?

no one any experience of ecu tweeking only?

 

how about a tSR turbo conversion?

 

i can think of better ways to spend 3k

 

I have to be a c**t and say dont spend your time and money on a 1.6 8v !

 

you obviously aint seen his polo, completley stripped, hes sticking to 1.6

 

Why???

Whack a 1.8T in there for an effortless 180bhp after re-chip.

 

i think that if emerald have already made a map for your specific engine and they can supply the ECU with it preloaded then you can do it, if not you'd have to pay to have it mapped on a dyno - then you be best waitin till you do your first major mod - throttle bodies or whatever, so you wouldn't have to pay to have it mapped twice

mike

AKA mk1_golf_gt

 

I know theres nothing but seats and a dash in his polo!

you just wont ever get much power out of a vw 1.6 8v engine!

 

perhaps for weight balance reasons?

tt

 

I have to agree from an economic sense point of view!!

Starting with 75BHP how much do you think its going to cost to achieve anything like decent power for that car?

The new Polo GTi is 125BHP so youll be wanting more than that.... Ideally 60BHP plus more than standard. Unless ure pockets are exceptionally deep its a total waste of effort & money, & you wont achieve it with normal aspiration on that engine!!

It must be easier & cheaper to go for an engine transplant or turbo the existing lump, or else youll be 2K+ lighter with an engine that makes 110-120BHP...& will probably be a pig on the road

 

Lot of negative vibes around here.
I say f@ck it! If you want to chip and fiddle with you 1.6 then go for it.
It not about what you could do, its what you DO!
Sure we could all be tootling around in 225bhp 20v turbo lumps in our Mk2's but we're not!

Do it mate, nothing like proving people wrong for producing a smug smile on your face.
I did read a post a while ago sl*gging of emerald ECU's though, can't remember the details though suggest a search

 

Fair enough if you want to have a go.

All I can say from my experiences yesterday from donny is you can`t be a bigger capacity, I`m considering a 2l for my mk2 16v, not for bhp but for the torque.

If you do the 1.6 you`ll never get any real torque out of it maybe reasonable bhp but no grunt, if the car`s light it may work but you`ll be changing gear endlessly to keep it on the power.

 

You really do not need it, unless you are fitting throttle bodies. And then, I'd rather fit it to a AFH 16v with your 1,6L 8v crank

 

Emerald have released new software that's free to download off their site. Includes things like traction and boost control and is still one of the cheapest on the market. Plus Dubsport use it, so it can't be all bad.

As for the after market ECU on the Polo.....I say do it. Be different - Not enough of that going on. Although it will cost and the performance you get from it will not be that of an engine transplant.

On a slightly different angle of attack, I heard a rumour that JabbaSport has software that allows them to program VAG ECUs. Might be worth givin them a call first before you part with hard earned on an aftermarket ECU that is inferior to the one you already have.

 

most vw ecus can be reprogrammed if you can find someone to do it, but jabba charge 400 a day, which cant be worth it on a 1.6 8v

 

But an aftermarket ECUs start at nearly twice that. AND you've still got to get it mapped.