Alternative Fuels in Diesels

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  1. Dubnutter Forum Member

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    Which is quite a generous amount for personal use.
     
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    There are different fractions of heating oil...

    28 second - TBH this is the most common heating oil. This is Kerosene based
    32 second oil - Less commonly used as a heating oil is red diesel!

    I can't vouch for what the 28sec would do to your car!

    There are quite a few qualities that diesel must possess to be classed as DERV (Diesel Engine Road Vehicle).

    Cetane number is probably the most important

    The ISO/BSI Standard lays down a variety of requirements which include:

    o Cloud Point (the temperature at which waxes in the fuel will start to precipitate out).

    o Pour Point (the temperature at which the product will solidify).

    o Flash Point (the temperature at which the fuel will give off flammable vapours).

    o Initial boiling Point (the temperature at which the fuel will start to boil).

    o Final Boiling Point (the temperature at which all of the fuel has boiled away).

    o Residue (the amount of stuff left after the liquids have been boiled off at atmospheric pressure - i.e. the gunge that will be left in the cylinder after the dieself fuel has been burned - these are usually ashphaltenes and heavy tars).

    o Ash Content (how much solid materials are left when all of the residue has been burned - i.e. the noncombustible materials that get left behind in the cylinder to scratch the cylinder walls these are usually heavy metals and sulphur).

    o Viscosity (the ability for the diesel to flow and thereby an indication of how it will atomise in the injectors).

    o Specific Gravity (how much it weighs relative to water).

    o Cetane Number (the ability to "burn" under compression as opposed to "explode" and cause knocking).
     
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    yes *cough cough* accurate of course :)
     
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    :thumbup: Yeah that's 16000miles i can get out of the campervan [:D]

    only actually do arround 8k per year
     
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    So how close is kero?
     
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    The Diesel engine and it's development
    A historical timeline


    1673 Christian Huygens, a Dutch scientist, produces the first know heat engine from his inspiration of a cannon. Mr. Huygens place a cannon vertically, and used a piston instead of a cannonball. The cannon had exhaust valves near the top and the piston was attached to a weight by means of rope and pulley. He calculated that a .5 kg of gun powder could lift 1360 kg piston over nine meters. But the absence of a reliable fuel hampered its development.

    1801 French chemist Phillipe Lebon develops a usable coal gas. Shortly after he patents a coal gas fired internal combustion engine.

    1804 Richard Trevithick built the first, albeit crude, locomotive using a steam engine mounted on a wagon riding steel rails.

    1807 The Malayan fire piston, originally from southeast Asia, is brought to Europe. It was a air pump type tube, when compressed would heat up the air and ignite a small clump of tinder.

    1820 William Cecil, 28 year old Fellow of Madeleine College, Cambridge, is the first to build an engine to run continuously. It uses a mixture of hydrogen and air (1:3) but soon abandons it when he is ordained in the Anglican church.

    1821 James Watt improves the efficiency of Newcomen's reciprocating pump to become the most efficient (4%) prime mover using pistons and expanding steam. The engine become the most popular at the time and lasted for quite a while.

    1824 Sadi Carnot published his theory on the thermodynamic cycle of the heat engine. From it, Rudolph Diesel would design his engine.

    1825 'Curacao' built in Dover, England becomes the first practical steamship to sail. It is bought by the Netherlands Navy. It was a wooden hull, 445 tonnes, paddle-wheeler with two engines developing 110 kW each.

    1829 George Stephenson builds the 'Rocket'. The first practical locomotive which made ten trips a day over a 2.4 km hauling a 13 tons at about 24 km/h for the Liverpool & Manchester Railway.

    1860 The first production engine is patented in Paris. Jean Joseph Etienne Lenoir builds around 500 of these 7:1 air gas ratio engine. But they were prone to problems due to their electric ignition.

    1864 Nicolaus August Otto and Eugen Langen form the N.A. Otto & Cie. In 1867 they premiere their first working model. At first, the one cylinder "coffee grinder" design, with it's horrible racket, scares away the Paris Exposition 1867 judges. But they realized it was the most efficient engine of the exposition, and the engine took first prize.

    1872 With many back orders for their successful engine, Otto & Cie established a new plant. They called it Gasmotoren-Fabrik-Deutz after the Deutz neighborhood of Koln, Germany. They hire a production manager, Gottlieb Daimler and an assistant Wilhelm Mayback. These three men, some of the greatest engineers who ever lived, now where under one roof.

    Shortly after, Otto "comes up" with the four strokes of an internal combustion engine; intake, compression, ignition/expansion, and exhaust were all assigned a "stroke".

    1876 Otto's new design is built. The one cylinder, flame ignited prototype is "handed over" to Mayback who develops it for production. It becomes know as the "Deutz A" engine. With an efficiency of over 16% and quiet operation, it is issued a patent insuring it almost a virtual monopoly.

    1878 Dugald Clerk, a Scot, is granted a patent which lays down the groundwork for the two stroke compression engine design. It is demonstrates at Kilburn, England in 1879.

    1879 Karl Benz expands on Clerk's ideas, and establishes Benz & Cie in Manheim to develop the engine idea. Deutz's stranglehold on Germany sees to it that a patent is not granted to Benz's ideas.

    1880 The 137 meter, 5,247 tonnes 'Arizona' is the first steam powered vessel to win the mythical "Blue Ribband". The White Star Line steel hulled ship reached 32 km/h with her John Elder & Company 's 4,679 kW compound steam engines.

    1882 Daimler quits Deutz because of some contentious issues over patents with Otto. Mayback join Daimler to research the possibility of a light weight, higher speed, internal combustion engine.

    1886 Deutz stranglehold on the basic patent of the internal combustion engine is reversed. A patent attorney for Geruber Korting finds a prior patent, laying out the exact cycles of the internal combustion engine. The French transportation engineer, Alphonse Beau de Rochas, had filed it on January 16, 1862.

    1886 Benz's biggest problem, the magneto design, is remedied by Robert Bosch. The final prototype, the three wheeled 'Dogcart', is a success.

    1889 Rudolph Diesel, with his French connections, is the only German engineer invited to give a his paper, "Revue Technique de l'Exposition Universelle" at the International Engineering Congress.

    1892 Rudolph Diesel draws his theories into a design, but it is decline a patent in Europe, at first. On appeal his "not original" idea is patented on February 28. It was a design using much higher pressure to achieve Carnot's ideal heat cycle. Sometime later, Diesel is granted a patent in the United States for the new engine.

    1893 Benz's engine the 'Standhur' (Upright clock) runs continuously at the Paris Expositions. The beginning of a long "work day" for it.

    1893 Rudolph Diesel rewrites his manuscript "The theory and construction of a rational heat engine to replace steam engine and contemporary combustion engine" to "Eines rationellen Warmenmotor" describing his theory of a heat engine with an estimated 70-80% efficiency. He is severely criticized by his peers, the leading edge German engineers.

    1893 At Augsburg, on August 10, 1893, Rudolf Diesel's prime model, a single 10-foot iron cylinder with a flywheel at its base, ran on its own power for the first time with 26% efficiency, remarkably more than double the efficiency of the steam engines and in 1894, he filed for a patent for his new invention. The original oil burning engines used very crude mechanical injection equipment so Rudolf Diesel again began using air blast to provide atomization of the fuel as well as turbulence of the mixture. This was very successful and utilized in Rudolf Diesel's third engine built in 1895. This engine was very similar to engines being used today. It was a four-stroke cycle with 450psi compression.

    1893 In July, Rudolph Diesel, assistant Lucian Vogel, and his father in law, Heinrich Buz at the 'Ausgburb Machine Works' begin experimenting with Rudolph Diesel's the new prime mover.

    1894, February 17, Diesel's experimental engine runs at 88 rpm for about one minute, the first time ever, about 9 months after first "test firing".

    1896 Rudolf Diesel demonstrated another model with the theoretical efficiency of 75 percent; Diesel designed his engine in response to the heavy resource consumption and inefficiency of the steam engine, which only produced 12% efficiency.

    1897, February 17, the Diesel's engine runs on its own. The water cooled, ringed piston, fuel injection, single cylinder engine ran on cheap kerosene. It was a total success. It produced 13.1 kW at 154 rpm, and achieved 26.2% efficiency.

    1897 Mirrlees, Watson & Yaryman of Glasgow, among others, sign a deal to build the new prime mover from Rudolph Diesel.

    1897 Immanuelle Lauster, at 'Machinenfabrik Augsburg', designs and build the first twin cylinder prototype Diesel engine. It develops 44 kW at 180 rpm, this is achieved by increasing the size of the bore and stroke as well as other refinements.

    1898 June 10, Sulzer starts building it's first Diesel engine A four stroke, 260mm cylinder, developing 14.7 kW.

    1898 Burmeister & Wain (B&W) of Kohaven, Denmark retain rights to build the Diesel engine. As do Aldophus Busch (Budweiser beer in US) who sets up the Adolphus Busch's Diesel Motor Company of America. Vickers Sons & Maxim Ltd of England and Gebruder Howalt-Werf are among others. Sweden financiers Marcus Wallenberg and Oscar Lamm set up AB Diesel Motorer. Emanuel Nobel, Swedish-Russian nephew of Alfred Nobel, acquires the rights to build the Diesel engine and promptly establishes the Russian Diesel Company of Nuremberg.

    1898 The first commercial Diesel engine is sold to Aktiengesellschaft Union, a matchmaking company in Kempten near Ausgburg, Germany. It is one of Lauster's twin cylinder design. It is delivered in January and started up on March 5. After fifteen years it still ran perfectly, without any major repairs.

    1898 After a successful exhibition of their engines, side by side, at the Munchen Power and Works Exhibit, Machinenfabrik Augsburg and Nurnberg decide to continue their partnership. The partnership's name is shortened in 1904 to Machinefabrik Augsburg-Nurnberg, better known today as M.A.N.





    1898 Rudolf Diesel was granted patent #608845 for an "internal combustion engine" later known as the Diesel engine. Diesel demonstrated his engine at the Exhibition Fair in Paris, France in 1898. This engine stood as an example of Diesel's vision of an engine fueled by vegetable oil. In 1912 he stated: "The diesel engine can be fed with vegetable oils and would help considerably in the development of agriculture of the countries which use it" and that "The use of vegetable oils for engine fuels may seem insignificant today. But such oils may become in course of time as important as petroleum and the coal tar products of the present time." Henry Ford shared a similar vision to that of Diesel and believed plant-based fuels to be the future of transportation. Ford planned to use ethanol as the primary fuel for his Model T, however, the less expensive gasoline emerged as the dominant fuel.

    1898 In order to manage the explosive growth of the Diesel engine. Rudolph Diesel's establishes a company to manage the licensing of the design. The new venture buys all patents and is tasked with the further developments and management of the new engine. It is called the General Diesel Corporation, and is founded on September 17. Rudolph Diesel is paid a sum of 3.5 million German marks.

    1900 The Diesel engine takes the "Grand Prix", the highest prize, at the 1900 Paris Exposition. The exhibition was attended by 50 million people.

    1902 Adolphus Busch's company build the first Diesel engine in the United States. It is a three cylinder, 55 kW model, which first ran in April. Fewer than 100 were sold, most of them without profit.

    1903 Sulzer begins engine manufacturing in Winterthur, Switzerland. Three years later, they offer a range of 12 engines with power from 11 to 440 kW.

    1904 KW Hagelin, engineer in charge of Nobel's marine division, oversees the building of 'Vandal'. A 74.5 meter long, shallow draft tanker with a cargo capacity of 800 tonnes. A revolutionary design at the time. Three generators, driven by 3 cylinder AB Diesels, supplied 88 kW each, at 240 rpm. These generators supplied power to 75 kW reversible DC motors. A setup almost identical to today's locomotives.

    1904 Ancient Etablissment Sautter-Harle of Paris, licensed by Diesel in 1899, builds the first opposed piston, reversing engine. The four stroke engine develops 19 kW and was installed in the 38 meter Canal Ship 'Petit Pierre', which also boasted a variable pitch propeller. The firm's next engines, larger versions of the previous design, were delivered to the French navy for installation into their submarines.



    1904 M.A.N. installs four diesel engines with a total 1800 kW turning at 160 rpm in the Kiev Municipal Transport Authority, the first power plant of its kind. It is in operation until 1955.

    1904 Sulzer installed their first diesel engine in a ship, the freight boat 'Venoge'. It was much like the 'Vandal', but Sulzer was dissatisfied with the electric motor, the only way to get reverse. They go on to develop their two stroke, reversing engine. One year later...

    1905 The first two stroke, and the first direct reversible engine (as opposed to starting in reverse) is built by Sulzer. It had four cylinders with a bore of 175 mm and stroke of 250 mm producing 66 kW. It is on exhibit at the Milano World Exposition in 1906.

    1907 Rudolph Diesel''s patent in Europe expires. A flood of new engine building begins.

    1907 Nobel Brothers builds the first four stroke reversible engine.

    1909 In 1907, Benz & Cie entices a young Lebanese engineer, Prosper L'Orange, from Deutz. He goes on to design the precombustion chamber. Making the Diesel engine run smoother and quieter, but with a slight loss of fuel economy.

    1910 The 'Fram' receives it's 132kW engines from AB Diesel Motorer of Sickla, Sweden. The ship carries Roald Amundsen to the Antarctic. He becomes the first man to reach the South Pole on December 14, 1911. AB goes on to adopt the Polar trademark.

    1911 Sulzer builds a larger version of their 1905 engine, ushering in the age of the large slow speed two stroke engine; quite a bit larger. The one cylinder, with a meter diameter piston turns at a leisure pace of 150 rpm. It produces an astounding 1472 kW. Shortly after, they begin building a four cylinder version to produce 2760 kW.

    1912 Burmeister & Wain build the first ocean-going motor ship, the 'Selandia', for the Danish East Asiatic Company. It starts a revolution in shipping and ship design. It is launched on November 4 and has two, four stroke, reversible engines developing 932 kW each at 140 rpm. On the other hand, Hamburg Sud cargo liner, the Monte Penedo, is the first ship to be powered by two stroke engine. The two Sulzer engines developed a combined 1250 kW at 160 rpm.
     
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    "I read your history of diesel engines . Being an engineer myself and Swedish I couldn't resist noting that you mentioned M/S Selandia. Built 1972, having 3 deiselengines of 55 something MW. Selandia had one 12-cylinder and two 9-cylinder Gtaverken engines. At the same time Swedish shipping company Brostrms built M/S Nihon with 8 more MW, with two 10 cylinder doing average speed of 32 knots on its maiden voyage around the world . Consuming 320 metric ton of fuel per 24 hours she had no traditional separators but 8 centrifuges that took out most of the impurities in the fuel. I have many friend that worked on this ship and I have been working as service personal on this ship myself.
    Yours sincerely, Hans-Olof Hansson , Gothenburg , Sweden"

    1912 The first Diesel locomotive is built. The 80 tonne locomotive is built by Sulzer, Krupp, an the Prussian & Saxon State Railway. The first revenue earning locomotive is built by ASEA for Sweden's Melersta Sodermanslands Railway in 1913.

    1912 The Diesel patent expires in the US. New companies spring up to build their versions of the engine. Allis-Chalmers and Nordberg in Milwaukee, Fairbanks-Morse in Beloit and Worthington Cudahy - all in Wisconsin, heart of the dairy states, a popular place for German immigrants. As well Busch-Sulzer set up shop in St Louis, and Winton in Cleveland.

    1913 Rudolf Diesel shipped on the "SS Dresden", a cross-channel ferry, for a short trip to attend the opening of a new Carels factory in Ipswich. (Carels was a Belgian Diesel licensee.) However, Diesel never arrived in England and his body was found a couple of days later by a coast guard boat. It has been alleged that he was going to attend a meeting with representatives of the Royal Navy. It has been alleged that he was murdered by German agents opening the way for the German submarine fleet to be powered by his engine. Others believed that the French might have been responsible. Their submarines were already powered by diesel engines. They may have been trying to keep the engines out of both the British and German hands. Still others believe he was murdered by agents of the burgeoning petroleum industry whose business would have been adversely affected by the widespread use of vegetable oil powered engines. Diesel's family, however, believes that he was thrown off the ship so that his ideas could be stolen.

    1912 Sulzer tinkers with their 1S100, an experimental engine. It has a bore of 1 meter and holds the title, engine with the largest bore, for almost 60 years.

    1913 Hugo Junkers, an aeronautical engineer, builds a four cylinder lightweight Diesel engine for an aircraft. Shortly after, a six cylinder was producing 368 kW at 2400 rpm.

    1914 Sulzer develops piston cooling and scavenging for their two stroke engine.

    1914 The Diesel powered German U-boat, U-9, meets and sinks the British cruisers Aboukir, Cressey, and Hogue off the Dutch coast in less than one hour. The Diesel powered submarine could no longer be ignored.

    1914 The first diesel-powered locomotive ran on the Prussian and Saxon State Railways in

    1915 Swiss engineer Dr. Alfred J. Bchi, Chief Engineer of Sulzer Brothers Research Department, proposes the first prototype of a turbocharged diesel engine. He had been working on the design since 1909. Even with a 40% increase in an engine's efficiency, his idea was not well received.

    1916 Hugo Junkers unveils the Jumo, a six cylinder opposed piston aircraft engine. It is installed in the Dornier Do18 flying boat. The Deutsche Lufthansa Do18 break the long distance flight record to Caravellas, Brasil from the English Channel.

    1919 In 1909, Jonas Hesselman of AB Diesel Motorer and Harry Leissner at Lujussne-Woxna were working on a solid fuel injection system. It is not until 1919 that Prosper L'Orange brings it all together. He successfully incorporates fuel injection in Benz's one cylinder, smooth running engine.

    1919 Sir Harry Ricardo pioneers the swirl chamber, a slightly different combustion chamber than Mr. L'Orange 's design.

    1920 Enterprise, in the US, builds it's first engine, it later becomes a division of DeLaval.

    1922 Benz & Cie's stationary engine division becomes it's own company. It becomes the Motoren-Werke Manhein AG better known as MWM.

    1923 General Electric, American Locomotive and Ingersoll Rand collaborate to produce a Diesel powered switcher engine. It works around the clock at New York Central's yard, operating for only ten cents per kilometer. A refined model becomes the first commercially produce units, they are bought by the Jersey Central Railroad remaining in service at the Bronx yard for 30 years.

    1923 Peugeot installs the first Diesel engine in their car.

    1924 Benz & Cie introduces their transport truck, the 5K3. M.A.N. introduces it's competition five month later.

    1924 The newly formed Electro-Motive Company, a spin off of Motive Power, a division of the Union Pacific Railroad, headed by WR McKeen, introduces their 59 passenger coach. It is powered by a Winton engine and costs about half the normal cost of running a steam equivalent.

    1925 The Caterpillar Company is the result of a merger of Holt Manufacturing Company of Stockton, California and the C. L. Best Gas Traction Company of San Leandro, California.

    1925 Mack Truck Co. Begins experimenting with diesel engines.

    1926 Daimler and Benz merge. The new company is called Daimler-Benz, it changes later to Mercedes - Benz. They introduce the new 5K3 model which includes the new, Robert Bosch designed, glow plugs.

    1927 Continuing on Fritz Lang's injection system, Robert Bosch simplifies and improves the fuel injection system for it's debut in the Mercedes Benz OM5 truck. By now most of the world's freight moves by Diesel powered truck.

    1929 In Indianapolis, Clessie Cummins manages to fit his 6.25 liters Diesel engine into a 1925 Packard, seven passenger car. He drives it to New York for the Auto Show where he gets the "cold shoulder" officially- but Ford and GM executives ask for private demonstration.

    1929 Kawasaki and Mitsubishi of Japan sign licensing agreements with M.A.N. Kawasaki later signs agreements with Mitsui.

    1929 General Motor buys the Adam Opel AG Company, in the 1930s, the largest car producer in Europe.

    1930 General Motors Corporation buys the Electro-Motive Company and the Winton Engine Company. The result is Electro Motive Division (EMD) and a new aggressive campaign to slay the "fiery dragon of railroading" - the steam locomotive. They build the GM #103, a four unit, 59 meter long behemoth, painted in "grimy black" with a yellow stripe and "GM" stylized on the front. Sixteen driving axles deliver to the rails 4000 kW of power. They also support the 408,000 kg, the heaviest locomotive ever.

    1931 Clessie Cummins installs his Diesel in a race car. It runs at 162 km/h in Daytona, and 138 km/h in Indianapolis where it places 12th.

    1931 Caterpillar introduces the 1C1 Diesel engine crawler tractor. Although more expensive, they sell about 10,000 units, 90% of these having Diesel engines. The Cleveland Tractor Company and International Harvester follow the example shortly after.

    1932 In Manchester England, L Gardner & Sons' Hugh and Joseph Gardner, inspired by Mr. Cummins, install a Gardner 4LW Diesel in a 1925 Bentley Saloon. With a top speed of 128 km/h, they enter the car in the 1933 Monte Carlo Rally. They are encouraged to build a new lightweight engine, although the new idea was not readily accepted.

    1932 CL Cummins installs a Diesel engine in a Mack 10 tonne bus. They proceed to drive across the US, 5181 km, in 78 hours 10 minutes. Faster than any other form of transport - train and such, and all for $21.80 in fuel cost.

    1932 The Flying Hamburger garnishes newsreel and tabloid attention because of its radical design and performance. The Zeppelin Aircraft Works used wind tunnel testing to determine the styling of the Flying Hamburger. While the two 300 kW Mayback V12 engines, propelled the train to 198.5 km/h, it's regular service speed was around 160 km/h.

    1933 Unlike Cummins and Gardner, Daimler-Benz built cars as opposed to converting existing one to Diesel power. They took the risk and introduced the 'Manheim', powered by a noisy version of their truck engine. It is not well received at the 1934 Berlin Auto Show. Undaunted, they redesign the idea and introduce the 260D. With it's combination of medium size sedan look and excellent fuel economy, it becomes a commercial success.

    1934 M.A.N. Begins development on their exhaust gas turbine.

    1934 May 26, the Pioneer Zephyr, modeled after the Flying Hamburger, breaks all speed and distance records on it's run between Denver, Co. and Chicago, Il. The all stainless steel train averages 125 km/h over the 1633 km journey.

    1935 Mack Truck Co. Is producing and selling thier own diesel-powered trucks.

    1935 B&W builds the first four stroke engine to burn Heavy Fuel Oil.

    1936 Daimler-Benz unveiled their first large-scaleproduction diesel passenger car at the International Automobile Exhibition in Berlin.

    1937 Belgian patent 422,87 is granted to G. Chavanne (of the university of Brussels) It describes the use of ethyl esters of palm oil (although other oils and methyl esters are mentioned) as diesel fuel. These esters were obtained by acid-catalyzed transesterification of the oil (base catalysis is now more common).

    1938 A commercial passenger carrying urban bus operates between Brussels and Louvian (leuven) powered by bio-diesel

    1938 General Motors forms a new division - Detroit Diesel Engine Division, they mostly build the popular 71 Series engine for the war efforts.

    1950 M.A.N. unveils the first four stroke supercharged engine to reach 45% efficiency.

    1954 Cummins unveils PT (pressure-time) fuel injection system.

    1958 The Peugeot 403 is introduced. The four cylinder Diesel powered car revives the car maker, battered from the second world war. The engine uses the licensed Ricardo swirl chamber design. In April 1970, the Lille Peugeot Plant builds it's millionth Diesel engine.

    1968 The first resilient mounts are used in engine installations by B&W.

    1970 The U.S. government passed the Clean Air Act.

    1972 Opel introduces the Opel GT coupe. It is the company's first Diesel powered car. They install a small turbo charger to their new 2 liter engine; it develops 70 kW. On June 1 and 2, the Opel GT breaks 18 international speed records with it's top speed of 197.5 km/h.

    1972 Burmeister & Wain launched the new "Selandia" for the same customer as the original "Selandia". It serves to illustrate the dramatic pace of ship and engine development. The new Selandia is two and a half times longer, twice as wide, at 50 km/h, is two and half times faster. It's three Diesel turbo charged, two stroke engine produced a total of 55,200 kW.

    1973 The Brown, Boveri and Company introduce the supercharger, known as the Comprex AWS. A mechanically driven air pump, based on a German patent developed under the supervision of Professor Max Berchtold at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich.

    1973 Representatives from the Austrian Federal Institute of Agricultural Engineering (Bundesanstalt fr Landtechnik, or BLT) began preliminary discussions on alternative biofuels for diesel engines (particularly for farm tractors) with the diesel engine developer AVL-List GmbH in Graz, Austria. Those discussions were the impetus for a series of experiments that mixed various vegetable oils with petrodiesel.

    1975 Manfred Wrgetter, who had just graduated from the Mechanical Engineering Department of the Technical University of Graz, took a job at BLT in Wieselburg, Austria, and a short time later began the fuel experiments. "In my work I concentrated on bench and field tests of farm diesel engines, while my boss, Josef Pernkopf, focused on production issues," Wrgetter (who is now deputy director and head of Research Agricultural Engineering at BLT) recalls. "The main aim of our work was to ensure the supply of fuel for farm tractor engines in the event of another oil crisis."

    1975 Mercedes introduces the 300D. The in-line five cylinder Diesel engine was radical for it's time. The 3005 cc developed 59 kW at 4000 rpm, and it boast an overhead chain driven camshaft. The Bosch fuel pump delivered fuel to a Prosper L'Orange styled combustion chamber and started and stopped with a turn of a key.
     
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    and VW joins in the Diesel action

    1976 Volkswagen adapts various popular technology to introduce it's four cylinder Diesel engine. The four cylinder, 1471 cc, producing 37 kW at 5000 rpm is installed in their Golf. The engine is coupled to a front wheel drive assembly. Its advertising claims state it's the quickest accelerating Diesel car.

    1976 Mercedes stuns the automotive world by building the fastest car. The Diesel powered C-111 set the new speed record at 253 km/h, averaged over 24 hours. The engine is equipped with a small Garret Airsearch turbo charger to produce 147 kW at 4200 rpm from only three liters of displacement.

    1977 GM's Oldsmobile division introduce their sedan with an 89 kW, pushrod V8 Diesel engine. It is adapted form a standard gas counterparts. They soon offer the engine in the 1978 GMC and Chevrolet pick ups. With the energy crisis of the seventies, it sparks an automotive revolution, where gas engine had previously dominated. Companies which had never marketed the efficient Diesel powered cars began to do so.

    1977 The ERDA's Energy Research Center in Oklahoma backs ups research by other independent researchers, confirming the dramatic fuel savings of the efficient Diesel engine comparatively to its gas counterparts. Figures of 43%, 25%, 35% in savings are declared, as well the cleaner burning Diesel gains popularity because of its lower emissions.

    1977 Murphy Diesel of Milwaukee agrees to market MWM engines.

    1984 MAN and B&W merge to become MAN B&W Diesel A/S, Copenhagen.

    1987 The QE 2 goes into refit to remove it's steam systems to install the world's largest Diesel Electric propulsion plant. Nine four stroke MAN engines deliver 179 MW.

    1988 MAN B&W acquires the French engine maker SEMT Pielstick.

    1998 P&O Nedlloyd accept delivery of the 6,674 teu container ship P&O Nedlloyd Southampton. The first ship to be powered by the 12 cylinder Sulzer RTA96C with an output of 65,880 kW.

    1999 Not to be outdone, the B&W 12K98MC-C with an output of 68,640 kW is sold by the Dutch engine maker.

    2000 MAN B&W aquires ALSTOM's Diesel engine business consisting of the long established Mirrlees Blackstone, Ruston and Paxman brands.

    2003 M.A.N. introduces the ME engine. The slow speed two stroke engine does away with the traditional camshaft, replacing it with electronically controlled actuators.
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU4rW9SjUS8&feature=related

    Good utube video eplaining the cost savings - note that you only have to use the titration method method of refining the oil if you pump hasn't been modified so

    1000 for a filter system or
    250 for Pump rebuild

    i know which option i would take ( and i did)

    [youtube]bU4rW9SjUS8[/youtube]
     
  14. Brookster

    Brookster Paid Member Paid Member

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    Is it legal to use vegetable oil as a fuel?

    It is legal in the Uk to use up to 2500litres per year as a road fuel without declaring.
    The laws are different in other countries so check first.

    What savings can be made using vegetable oil?

    Basically the more fuel you use the more you will save.Recycled oil can be free.If you buy vegetable oil from the supermarket it will cost you 73p/litre compared with 1.15 for Diesel a saving of more than 35% on todays (26.03.08) fuel cost.

    How do the kits work?

    The kits work on the same principle as the big ships that burn crude oil. When vegetable oil is heated it becomes less viscous. The car conversions work on the same principle by adding heat via heat exchangers, which are heated from the coolant system. When the oil is heated suficiantly it can burn completly. If the oil is heated insuficiantly it is unable to atomise properly (spray finely enough) when injected, resulting in a carbon build up in the engine.

    The idea of the two tank system is that you start up on diesel and when the engine reaches running temperature the oil becomes less viscous (thinner) at this point the system semi-automaticaly/automaticaly switches over to run on vegetable oil.

    Does vegetable oil use effect the performance of the engine?

    You will not notice any difference in mpg acceleration or top speed.

    What engines can use vegetable oil as a fuel?

    Nearly all diesel engines can be converted to run on vegetable oil but some injection pumps are better than others, (more below).

    What engines are suitable for your kits?

    kits are suitable for Vehicles that return more than 20 mpg, eg. small cars and light vans (under 3litre),which have either 8 or 10mm diameter fuel lines(please ask about kits for larger engines). Engines that are either Pre chamber or direct injection (Tdi) with distributor type/inline injection pumps. Ideally suited to Bosch, Diesel kiki, Nippon Denso or Zexel injection pumps.

    Lucas Cav, Stanadyne, Delphi, RotoDiesel and Bosch VP44 pumps can possibly be used but vegetable oil must never, never be allowed to cool down in the pumps.


    Can you mix Vegetable oil with Diesel?

    The fuels can be mixed but don’t forget that cold vegetable oil can effect
    the fuel pump and possibly cold starting.

    Does using Vegetable effect maintenance?

    Just like burning diesel it is advisable to stick to the manufacturers
    maintainance schedule.

    Can you use vegetable oil in the winter?

    It is advisable to add a small amount of diesel in our system when the
    temperature nears 0 degrees C.

    What are the advantages of using vegetable oil?

    Waste oil can be reused as a fuel instead of being a problem.
    Organically grown winter rapeseed is a Local and sustainable product.
    Burning pure plant oil is CO2 neutral and gives off less NO2 if locally grown
    in the correct way.
    Vegetable oil is sulphur dioxide free when burnt, so doesn’t cause acid rain.
    Vegetable oil is Non Toxic, and biodegradable.
    Using Vegetable oil spares crude oil for future uses.
    There are no waste products in the making of vegetable oil.
    It doesn’t take much energy to produce vegetable oil.
    The use of vegetable is a much safer stored fuel, it will not catch fire until it
    reaches around 300 degrees C.
    The smell of vegetable oil is pleasant
    Vegetable oil is Non Toxic, and safe to handle.
    Vegetable oil is also cheaper on the pocket.


    What are the benefits of SVO/PPO over biodiesel?

    Biodiesel is vegetable oil that has undergone chemical and heat treatments. These extra processes require upto 25 times as much energy input as using straight vegetale (svo).

    This process is on going where as its not necessary if you convert the car once.

    Biodiesel is toxic.

    Biodiesel is not as sustainable as vegetable oil for the above reasons.

    Biodiesel effects the rubber seals in some engines.

    Biodiesel is more expensive to produce and buy.

    Are conversions permanent?

    No,just take the kit off and put things back how they were.Then just fit the kit to your next vehicle.
     
  15. Brookster

    Brookster Paid Member Paid Member

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    18.75 KTC Rapeseed @ Makro

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    stocked up ready for trip to France
     
  16. PeoplesCar Forum Member

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    Bargain!
    The caddy is running on Uptown Oil biodiesel for my Wolfsburg marathon for Stroke.
    After a dramatic last few weeks, I now find myself 300 miles from my Sheffield home, sat in my holiday inn express folkestone hotel room.

    Ferry later today takes me, john and the caddy to Dunkirk, with film crew following on brand new caddy maxi provided by gilder van centre, on our way to meet the mayor of Wolfsburg on 24th May.
    A tour of the Volkswagen factory is arranged for Friday.
    Autostadt are putting us all up in hotel. Can't wait to spend some time at the autostadt in between training and the marThon on Sunday.

    It's action on stroke month!
     
  17. Brookster

    Brookster Paid Member Paid Member

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    Great stuff have a good time :thumbup:

    p.s. i've just made a donation [:D]
     
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  18. jettagti Forum Member

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    Interesting stuff. My mate works for a plant and forklift repair company and comes home with gallons of used hydraulic oil. We've both been running it in our pd Passat's for well over 40,000 miles with regular filter changes and never missed a beat. Normally I mix it 50:50 with pump diesel but have occasionally filled to the max with straight oil from a near empty tank. He's also been running it in his Transit with no problems either.
     
  19. Dongskie New Member

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    I have heard about used cooking oils as an alternative, so I tried mixing used cooking oil into my diesel...

    I waited til my last 10L reserved fuel indicator lit, and poured in 5Liters of well filtered cooking oil.

    I felt more acceleration response.
     
  20. erreesse New Member

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    In my son's car we used used cooking oil for years. About 10% or just before a refill we poured in 3L and then min. 30L diesel. When passing the car was like a mobile chip shop.
     

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