Blast From the past - GTi Engineering 1988/9

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  1. turbotommy Forum Member

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    I don't remember the oettinger 170/2.0 16v conversions a couple of years after 1989 in the brochures!
    Were these heads different to the French 16s cylinder heads? (1.6 vs 1.8) as the inlet manifolds clearly are,and the water jackets must be!
    VERY RARE beast that engine conversion imho (and i've been around for a long time on the mk2 gti scene) the only one i could of come across was in a white mk1 many many years ago at TRL.
     
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    No one noticed the price of the tyres yet?
    Back in the day 1988/9
    Cheapest 14" tyre they did was pirelli P6 @ 80 + VAT
    195 50 15 pirelli P700 ONLY 140 + VAT EACH pmsl
    Must be 200 each in todays money but having said that,i paid well over 100 each Yokohama A008's back then (about the stickiest road tyre around then)
     
  3. magzm8

    magzm8 Forum Member

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    Theres a whole thread dedicated to the GTi 16S (Oettinger). here.

    http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=39687

    Courtesy of the Mk1 Owners Club Forum.

    By 1981 the Golf GTi became increasingly under threat as the hot hatch leader from competitors such as the Renault 5 Alpine, the Ford Escort XR3 and Vauxhall Chevette HS. VAG France requested more power from the GTi to stay in front and met the engineers in Wolfsburg to find a solution. The 1.8 engine was still a year away, the 16V even earlier in development and turbo conversions had proved unreliable. VW informed the only solution was from a company called Oettinger who had a 16V engine ready. Official authorisation was given and on 1st October 1981 the newly born GTi 16S (?S? for soupape the French for valve) became available in the VW range, but only in France and Switzerland at a price of 75,000 Francs (around ?7,500). Only between 1200 and 2000 were built during just over a year. The standard GTi was shipped from Wolfsburg to Oettinger who carried out the conversion which consisted of hundreds of specialist parts. The 16S was only available in 2 colours Alpine White and Black Metallic. Black Metallic was unique to this model


    Oettinger Engine
    - Max Power: 136bhp at 6500rpm, Max Torque: 160Nm at 5500rpm
    - Max Engine Speed: 7500rpm, Capacity: 1588cc
    - Compression Ratio: 10.5:1
    - Description: Double over head cams, 4 valves per cylinder in 240 V, 30mm inlet and 27mm exhaust valves, specific inlet manifold (with equal length runners) and exhaust manifold, 79.5 mm bore x 80mm stroke, Mahle pistons, balanced crankshaft and flywheel, 2-piece oil sump with windage tray, Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection (note different location of components), specific distributor, alternator pulley, brackets, etc
    - Each engine is individually marked on the cylinder head cover, cylinder head and cylinder block which is a modified EG one.


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    Can't see it too well in this pic but the car has a very strange "Table Top" spoiler [xx(]

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    Some very interesting stuff in that thread mate. :thumbup:
    Love the details on the Syncro rebuild. :)
     
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    bones Paid Member Paid Member

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    Bloody Hell! Supercharging Golf's 25 years ago! Who'd have thunk it [:D]
    Great article :thumbup:
     
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    Best the tuning company ever
     
  9. robertGTi3

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    wow, so much to take in :)
     
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    So the advice perhaps is, hang on to your MK IIs like I intend to.
     
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  13. MUSHY 16V

    MUSHY 16V Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    that a big drop in price
    it was up for sale a year or two for a lot more
     
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    Was it circa 8k before?
     
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    MUSHY 16V Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    about 7800 or more
    there was a thread about it on hear
     
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    MUSHY 16V Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    it was up 7500 on pistonheads January 09

    it was in bones Syncro thread

    it is a nice car not my cup of tea as i said it at the time
    and i did not think it was worth it at 7500

    but at 3900 its a steel
     
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  17. Admin Guest

    Sadly the front spoiler on Chris's car got damaged, it was a really iconic car that one. Mine will look exactly the same when it's finished (8v RE1900) but my front zender spoiler is also damaged which I'm trying to get repaired as they are impossible to find these days.

    Always wanted to own that red RE2000 wish I had the money, maybe one day........
     
  18. MUSHY 16V

    MUSHY 16V Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    it is a shame they fitted a big bumper after the spoiler was damaged
     
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    Yup Chris said it just fell apart as it had been damaged before. Mine's in two pieces and some it is held together by fibreglass. I just wish I could find a replacement but I've been looking for years to find one, only ever come across my damaged one which I bought a few years back.

    Sadly the zender kit is a rare as rocking horse doodoo these days
     
  20. bones

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    wow that has dropped in price!
     

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