broken wheel thread

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  1. jegaboo Forum Member

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    I seem to have broken a thread on my left rear hub and can only tighten 3 wheel nuts correctly on my 85 Gti Cabriolet [:^(]

    do you think I will be ok to drive on this?

    thanks
    j
     
  2. jamez Forum Member

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    i'd imagine it would be alright if it was only for a short distance, so long as the other 3 are proper tight, but you will have to replace the hub.
     
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    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Probably OK but I would fix it ASAP. Its just the disc/drum that is threaded though so nows the time for a brake upgrade/service :)
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  4. jegaboo Forum Member

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    cheers guys
    how much are we looking at for a new hub on an 85 Golf Gti?
     
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    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Oh the hub AND the wheel bolts are broken :lol: One from a MK2 can be used I think, then you can fit MK2 GTI brakes. I'm not 100% on that one though!

    BTW It is known more commonly as the stub axle, unless I'm getting confused. GSF sell them new:
    43806 STUB AXLE-REAR G1 >12/83 14.50
     
  6. jegaboo Forum Member

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    its the thread on the hub thats knackered, not the bolt, don't know how its bust.
     
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    cross threaded it!??
     
  8. jegaboo Forum Member

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    I don't know, it tightens to a certain degree then clicks loose again! - not clever. I thought I was being careful, I wonder if when untightening the nuts I have kicked down on the lever too hard and it has damaged it, but there does not look to be any thread damage to the nut!
     
  9. DAVE 2227 Forum Junkie

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    Try using a tap and pick up the thread again you may get away with it.
    Make sure you use correct tap as wheel bolts are fine pitched and not metric standard thread.
     
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    think from memory 4 std are M12x1.5 and 5 std are M14x1.5
    Helicoil kits are about 35-40 + VAT
     
  11. DAVE 2227 Forum Junkie

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    How far in do bolts go when fully tightened ?
    Sounds a bit like your bolts may be too short and that is classic symptom of doing that as you said when you were kicking down wheel spanner to loosen the bolt should have never done that if it is in the correct depth.
    So exactly how far in are they ?
     
  12. vrbanana Forum Junkie

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    Like Dave said because its very unusual to have a problem, bolt thread should protrude through he drive flange by about 3mm when tight
     
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    dont want to hijack the thread, (no pun intended!!)

    but can you enlarge the mk2 thread size M12 using the same holes but into a M14 thread?

    seem to have had a slight misunderstanding when i had my front hubs re-drilled to 5 stud and now the rear discs (mk3 ones) have a different thread to the fronts [:$]
     
  14. DAVE 2227 Forum Junkie

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    Tapping size for M14 x 1.5 is 12.5mm .
    So the answer is yes.
     
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    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    thanks a lot, im gona get a good sleep now.
    Edited by: Davs
     
  16. jegaboo Forum Member

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    I doubt its this as I checked all bolts are the same size and all the others go in fine. Its just this one thread that seems dodgy
     
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    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I am struggling to understand where exactly your problem is, is it the wheel bolt you can't tighten, or the hub bolts? If it is the hub you are having problems with, do you actually mean stub-axle?

    If it is the wheel bolt you can't tighten, just buy new brake drums thats what the wheels bolt on to!

    Can you point out which part you are having problems with:
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  18. jegaboo Forum Member

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    My car knowledge is terrible, so apols.
    The wheel is off the car (rear left), so there is what I thought was the hub that the bolts go in to. When I put the wheel on, three bolts go in ok, then the one at 2.00 oclock goes in to a certain tension, then it clicks and is lose again. When I try and put them in to the hub direct, this one again will not go in correctly.
     
  19. jegaboo Forum Member

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    Its the bolts going into part number 8
     
  20. rubjonny

    rubjonny Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Thats just the brake drum, you can buy a new set :)
    Only way to fix the thread would be to drill it out and helecoil it, which tbh isn't worth the hassle when you can just buy a new pair of drums instead. (You don't really want to replace one and not the other)

    Might be worth going for new drums and shoes all round, when was the last time it was done?
     

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