mk3 16v. I turn the key but NOTHING happens.. Help

I have just been looking at a few things, but had to stop as it got dark:




I have removed and sanded connection #1, this is the positive right?

I did not get any further today, ive been searching on here and vr6oc.
Am i correct in saying the starter is earthed from the solenoid unit via #2 in this pic? if so I will hopefully get underneath and check it out.

whats #3

Also on this occasion when turning the key I was getting a slight click from somewhere in the bay but I had no bloody help so could not locate

I really need to just take the bloody thing off and test with jump leads, but that will have to wait until the weekend at least!

This pic is off vr6oc, maybe its this!

 

#3 would be the +12V feed from ignition switch to solenoid coil, I reckon. Unplug that connector and see whether water has got in and corroded the contact.

 

1 and 2 are correct, 3 i have no idea as i do not have this on my mk2, but the pic from vr6oc at the bottom is the little earth strap as mentioned in number 2, do not mees with that bit as it is likely to break, if it is broke then obviously get a new bit but, as an earth strap it should last for bloody ages, when you put the connections back on use copper grease or vasaline if you have no cg, now you mention you have been on vr6oc but i was under the impression yours was a mk3 valve no?

 

Yes it is 16v, but was just looking for ideas!

Come to think of it, I may be to blame?

I recently have changed the oil, after this I did not re-fit the plastic engine lower cover (that huge thing) I miss placed the 10mm bolts which hold it on! perhaps water has got into #3 because of this

Also, I have had to change the mfa stalks as the wiper arm would not engage. Could i have done something to the ignition barrel?

I have copper grease, I will apply this next time

 

i wouldn't have thought the plug getting a little wet would cause this problem maybe just cause a flat battery, but the MFA change could have knocked the ignition wires, do you have an auto leccy near you?

try and find one that will test various things for free, mine test stuff for nothing and he once spent 1 and a half hours looking for a fault on my car but as he found nothing he charged me nothing!

get a good one and your laughing

 

I have no idea lol

the Stresses hey

 

k i got my starter off today as its not kicking in, just a tiny click:



To test i believe i can use jump leads, placing (+) & (-) from battery to #1 and #2 on the starter. And then use a wire from the solenoid port (3) to the (+) on the battery?

What should happen if the starter is fine? Im guessing spin?

this will leave me (and others) to believe the ignition switch is to blame?

Also with the starter missing, could i still bump start it?

Thank you

 

I think you might find that #2 isn't what you think. I think #1 is +12V (heavy current) into the solenoid, and #2 is that heavy current coming out (having been 'switched' by the solenoid), going into the starter motor itself. Could be wrong, and I hope if I am someone will soon point it out.

Ground / negative connections to solenoid coil and starter being via metalwork/mountings.

 

ok, so
1 positive
2 into the solenoid
3 from ignition

Negative being the casing!

 

where abouts in the uk are you?

 

Work in Coventry

live in Nottm

 

ouch too far for my auto leccy guy to travel i'm afraid

he's in chorley near preston, i asked him today if he would travel he said no more than 50 miles

sorry!

 

I think il just buy a new one, take my chances

 

I'm only seeing a little red cross in a box, where you've tried to post a picture in your post at 19:36 (#26).

 

if theres just a tiny click it could just be the brushes in the end of the starter that are worn, before it stopped all togaether did it turn over a bit slow when trying to start the car?

 

Sorry, the pic was just one of the starter removed.

Ive had the car three years and cant say if it turned over any slower im affraid.

Ive spoke to a mate who said, if you test a knackard starter on just the battery the chances are that will spin, although it wont under load. So I guess this test wouldnt really prove anything!

 

Was/is terminal #3 corroded at all? Is there an unbroken heavy wire going from #2 into the starter motor housing? Did you get a multimeter?

 

Looks like I was wrong back there about the #2 connection, have a look at this.

 

No corrosion on #3
The cable form #2 through to the casing seems fine
Not got a multimeter as of yet

 

Great info here, very good.

I will be checking all (-) again, the a multimeter into the ignition wire and the battery.

If these are fine then i will be buying a new starter.

Thanks