if you want to have 256 vented rear brakes, then it is possible, but it will mean spending a couple of quid, and also having a 10mm wider track per side parts needed, 5 stud rear stub axle complete with flange from the rear of 5 stud polo fitted with rear discs a pair of stub axle spacers that incorporate the mounting ear's for the caliper carrier a pair of rear calipers and carriers from a 4wd MK4 platform car (ie 4 motion golf, S3, TT etc) a pair of rear 256 vented brake discs from a MK4 platform car, ie Golf 4 V5, GTi anni, TT, S3 etc etc The parts you can pick up from a scrappy fairly cheaply, the stub axle spacers (with mounting ears) I can supply along with the longer bolts - PM me if interested
yes the spacer/bracket is the most inportet bit to get the rest is easy to get it only seams to be on a small number lupo that have it must have been to use up old rear beams when thay went to 5 stud setup or some thing like that so Bups01 i would get it if i was you as vw is the only other place that i no of other than making one
When I talk about the spacer that incorporates the mounting ears for the calipers carrier, they are custom designed and made - the reason for that is that the 2wd carriers for vented 256mm applications are very hard to get, but the 4wd versions are a lot easier (as they were fitted to a lot more cars), so custom parts had to be made to get all these parts to bolt together and work properly The other point to make is to ask why are you thinking of putting 256mm rears on? The rears do little work in terms of braking, and you need to be careful of the amount of friction that can be applied front to rear - not trying to teach anyone to suck eggs here, but if you get that distribution % wrong and have to apply sudden heavy force to the brake pedal, then you can end up with the rears locking before the fronts and the consequences that follow. To give an indication, I have 330mm 4 pots on the front, along with an adjustable in car bias valve - the 256mm rears are more than overkill on my car, the bias is near enough fully wound off the rear to prevent them locking before the fronts. standard sized solids are more than adequate, especially when using the antiquated standard rear brake compensator - the only reason for doing this conversion in my eyes (the MK4 style stub axles) is to get the better bearing, the taper roller parts as used on MK2/3 golfs are rubbish in comparison
yes the polo disk with the mk2 calliper more than a nuff i only changed to the polo setup for the separate hub and disk to make it easy to chage disk's i have 280mm on the front
another good point is all the cars fitted with the 256mm setup are a lot hever than a mk2 and all have abs witch most mk2 golf dont have
Ok ive managed to get the stub axles/callipers/carriers/disks/pads off a Seat Cupra R for trial fitment, now what i need to know is where do i get the spacer brackets/longer bolts from?
p/n6E0501466A and 6E0501465A no 16 is watt the part looks like and bolts M10x40 ps very cheep from vw
Thanks MUSHY 16V Ok May need a set of wheel bearing kits for both sides too & dust sheilds for both sides, pm me with some figures and we go from there..
Are these the spacers i need? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rear-Stub-Axl...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Been reading this thread and I'm now considering updrading to MKiv hardware given I have two pet hates - 1 Brake fluid and 2 Changing rear disks. I was going to go widetrack by machining a spare set of MK3 rear stub axles and fitting these behind my existing MK3 axles but if I go MK4 and use the Polo backmounts with the ears for the calliper hanger will this increase my track. I'm looking for 20mm (e.g. 10mm per side)?
if you use the bracket above with the mk4 stub axle and hub it may increase the track but thare is a good chance it may be the same as you have at the moment and with this setup you will have to use the mk4 caliper carrier wether you use mk3 or mk4 calipers EDIT mk4 stub axles and hub do not fit polo or golf mk1/2/3 rearbeams or polo 6n stub axles thanks for that ryanp 27/01/2009
im looking at doing discs on the back on the mk1, I was going to use mk2 stub axels and calipers etc, but am i better off going this route using the mk2 calipers and carriers, but then having polo stub axels and discs?
yes its much better and makes it a a lot easier to change the disks if you use the parts i used you can use the mk2 calipers and carriers just need the longer alan bolt from the polo or do as i did and go to a hex bolts if you can get the polo carriers and calipers that would be even better thare is two size of calipers 34mm and 38mm the same two sizes the mk2 has any polo with rear disks from 1995 to early 2002 is what you want a tdi and gti polo is you best bet after 2002 that it changes to the mk4 type witch you cant use the mk2 carriers with i got my one's from a 2001 polo tdi hear is a list of part numbers i used right side stub axle =6n0501118 hub compleat with nut and cover and ABS ring = 6x0598477 splash sheald = 6n06 156 612 brake disk = 6n0 616 601a bolt stub axle to beam =n90758901 (4 of per side) M10x30 bolt for brake carrier =n90740301 (2 of per side) M10x1.25x30 left side stub axle =6n0501117 hub compleat with nut and cover and ABS ring = 6x0598477 splash sheald = 6n06 156 611 brake disk = 6n0 616 601a bolt stub axle to beam =n90758901 (4 of per side) M10x30 bolt for brake carrier =n90740301 (2 of per side) M10x1.25x30 remember you will need grind flat one corner of the mk1 rear beam to fit ether setup mk2 or polo __________________
Anyone fancy doing a step by step guide for this??? Managed to get another complete ibiza/polo rear axle for the swap but not sure where to start.
yes this is getting a bit confusing now if mods will lock this i will make a new thead from scrach can thay make the new one a sticky now see polo/ibiza stub axle on a golf mk1 to mk3 guide EDIT mk4 stub axles and hub do not fit polo or golf mk1/2/3 rearbeams or polo 6n stub axles thanks for that ryanp 27/01/2009
