hi there im looking for pedal box for mk1 golf with bias braking and a hydroulic clutch does anybody know where i can get one from or any recomendations or what do you think bout trying to manufacturer one ????? thanks Joe
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These are the only ones which are a direct fit: However, I have yet to get entirely comfortable with mine. It could be pedal ratio, or it could just be that pedal boxes with no servo are very different in feel. More details on my build thread here Wilwood and other ones can also be bought and fabricated to fit.
when you say feel Chris, what do you mean? is it any more wooden than the stock set up or is a bit more full on with braking force?
Pedal boxes are supposed to be 'wooden' (more stable brake pedal = better for heeling and toeing) but it takes some getting used to. The main issue I have is the amount of pedal pressure needed - they need jumping on, but I've got 4-pots on it, so I'm not using an OEM set up/have no direct comparisons to give.
by wooden i meant, little feel/braking force when pressing on the pedal, very much like stock mk1 brakes. I've only experienced pedal boxes in proper track cars, which bite very nicely, if a little to aggressively, but least you know you are going to stop
see i liked the original set up, just the 9" servo and 22mm MC upgrade with 256mm brakes, that was a vast improvement on the std setup,
It is - I had the same 4-pots on a 9"/22mm and it was fine. The cable change box meant I went hydraulic.
pedal boxs are now available on mk1 owners forum http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=71964&highlight=pedal+box they dont look as sturdy as the one posted above? anybody bought one?
ah thats what they look like, very similar to what i have, Chris has already posted what it looks like, but it seems to be more compact in design. wonder if it flexes under braking? as there isn't much bracing on it? and that seems to be an issue with these?
Is it not just a case of changing the size of the MC to add more pressure for the same amount of force exerted on the pedal? Or am i completely wrong.... As mentioned elsewhere, i want to use mine for several reasons - not only to remove all the crap from under the bonnet and give extra clearance for the future turbo setup, but also to give me some adjustability and also help to aleviate the imbalance i've got side to side at the rear which i've never been able to get to the bottom of. I could see it costing a bit to keep swapping MC's to get the feel right and wouldn't mind fitting a remote servo like you have to reduce effort, but agree it could be an expensive mistake in time and money if the end result is no good. My car's currently fitted with a TSR 285 brake conversion running standard calipers, a 22mm MC and G60 servo and i've never really had any issues with the feel, so it would be a shame to make it worse!
The master cylinders are already 0.625, so they're at min end of the range already. The remote servos aren't generally scrappy fodder and retail 150- 200.
So, the smaller the MC the more pressure? Ratsport do a remote servo kit for 140 which should do the trick.
http://shop1.actinicexpress.co.uk/s..._&ActinicSID=f56ebce0efd3ce740d7c0f72cd490310 That's the one - good price. Burton charge 295 https://www.burtonpower.com/product_main.aspx?dets_product.aspx?PSet=97&sTxt=servo Unfortunately, they're one circuit only. Mine is on the front circuit, which means the minute bias is wound to the rear, the pedal effort required goes up. I did this at Curborough - the car was understeering, so put it much more the back. Didn't adjust it after (forgot), so went to Edition38, then to the Ring, and couldn't understand why the effort required was so much, though it did seem to be sitting down at the back under braking! Then I wound it to the front, and far less pressure was required!
Chris - what sort of brake adjustment do you have fitted to yours? An adjuster knob linked to the balance bar and/or an in line adjuster like an AP fitted to the rear line? As in my pics, my pedal box already has an adjuster knob linked to the balance bar - i imagined that this would just change the (balance of the) amount of force to the front and rear without affecting the pedal too much. I suppose if you were to adjust it to give a little more pressure to the rear brakes, then you'd lose some to the front and would then have to press harder to get the same amount of braking to the front wheels? Trying to get my head around this...... If an in line adjuster lever (or knob) was fitted to the rear line, and this was adjusted, say to allow less pressure to go to the rear, would this then increase the amount of pressure going to the front? Or does it only affect the rear brakes? Does it then become a balancing act between the two to get the right feel? My head is starting to hurt now.......
Both, but I only adjusted the balance bar, as I wanted the backs to nip first, to at least try to throw off the understeer. Precisely. If you have the pedal box on a bench, you can play with it and see how, depending where the pivot sits (where it's adjusted to), one side comes into play first. Brrr, it might have some effect, backing up to the master cyl, I can't be sure. Feels like it should have an effect, but that's a level of precision I've not thought about.
