Radiator for Mk1 on carbs/ITB's

I'm just wondering what radiator and hose combinations people are using in there Mk1's, to gain more direct airflow from the front of the car, straight through to the carbs/ITB's.

I have heard of I believe a Nova GTE(?) radiator route, unsure of the hoses you have to use to plumb it in though... Also a Vauxhall van rad of some description that I think I've read of recently somewhere?

Someone elses picture (Velly's) but a good one showing the amount of room available in a Mk1, with carbs fitted.



Can anyone add in information of what they are using in terms of radiators and hoses, not only that but also how to mount them in (brackets etc.) and if there are any other modifications needed to get them to fit/work?

My current radiator is similar to the one in the above picture. At present, on track, the oil and water temps are nice and low and I still have the rad fan cowling on behind the radiator, would I in some way be able to run my carbs as per the setup pictured above and not suffer a huge drop/lack of performance?

 

Like you said above

I'm using a vauxh combo van rad and it is ace!

I know i got mk2 but iv used same on mk1 and it works same

Easy to plumb in an your thermo switch will fit as its sams size thread

 

i was reading about this somewhere the other day and cant remember where it was

it was an american site, possibly vortex?

anyhoo there was a thread on there that showed a few people running a honda rad in mk1's with carbs.
not sure what honda rad tho
i will try and find out....

looking at that pic surely the engine would suffer as the 2 throttle bodies/carbs nearest the gearbox must end up getting significantly higher temp air than the other 2?

cheers
andy

edit, found the link to the vortex thread... its not a huge thread but might be worth looking into?
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3245513

 

Using a Corsa rad. Fits under the slam panel for more space infront of the carbs.
Last but 1 pic:
http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=109917&hl=hotgolf

 

hmmmm... does anyone know if the corsa rad is the same as a combo van one as i may be able to aquire a combo one from work

 

im gettin a custom made - should be ready this week.. i gave the company a front panel and told them that i wanted it over to the right of the panel - so there will nothing blocking the carbs - will have to make a small panel though to prevent ram air effect - though having the rad to the right will eliminate hot air being drawn in..

the core id is quite large to ensure enough water passes through...

will post pics when i collect it.

 

sambo - how did you secure the rad in and what hoses did you use?

Mart - ditto as the question for sambo really, how did you secure it in and what hoses?

 

When i had my mk1 just made some brackets for the top and drilled couple of holes in bottom cross memeber and sloted rads feet into them

As for plumbing,went to scrapy and got loads of different shape hoses with correct id and used some imagination

Here is a pic(sorry not so good)

 

Mart, would you be able to get any pictures of where and how the hoses are routed on your setup?



I've seen a couple of Corsa radiators on ebay, one is like sambo's where the top hose is in the far corner of the radiator but another one I have seen has both outlets pointing out to one side of the car on the same side.

Are these Corsa radiators efficient enough to cool a VW 16v engine? I dont see why not to be honest, just wondered.

 

im running a corsa diesel radiator in my mk1 16v and is good but also heard that u can fit a pug radiator out of a 205 gti or diesel. the diesels come with a built in header tank

 

James,got your pm on dubforce (mk1 16v on 45's) You probably know its been a while since i had the mk1 up and running now you know its me

But i used a corsa rad (very long compared to vw) and as above,just one hole drilled in front panel.
I used a nova saloon rad fan and cowling which plugged straight into the vw loom.

It ran perfectly cool

Can't just remember what i did with the outlet on the head...not sure if i had it rewelded at a diffarent angle (sorry m8,was a good few years ago now )

Neil.

 

Sorry about that Neil didn't realise it was you, that has been a while!

Do you still have the corsa rad you used and did it sit under the front panel? Is it the rad that needs the long hosee going across the back of it?

 

Sorry mate, only just saw your post, I'll get some pics of the plumbing in. I had to buy some extra pipe to make it fit but nothing to worry about.

 

Nice one Mart, that would be a huge help!

Also a part number for the rad, if it's on there?

 

Are there two types of corsa radiators that fit under the slam panel?

I see on sambo's rad that the top rad hose comes all the way across from battery is but I'm not too sure where the top hose is on Mart's, hence the enquiry if there are two?

 

Vauxhall Corsa Combo rad:





650 x 268 x 42

The only thing is it has an odd angled bottom outlet and I'm not sure if I will be able to get the angle back to route it nicely to the water pump...

 

Turn it upside down then.

 

Would it work just as well?

The only thing in doing that though is that the thermo switch will be in the wrong place.

 

dont think it will matter which way round you have a radiator mate

 

How important is the depth of the core?

My original rad at the moment measures up to be 450 x 320 x 40. A couple of options I've come across are:

Corsa Combo 1.5D/TD, 1.7D - 650 268 x 42


Corsa Mk1 1.0 12v - 530 x 285 x 25


Corsa/Tigra/Combo 1.4 - 530 x 285 x 26


Nova 1.2 85-93 - 530 x 230 x 32


Audi 80 2.0E 8v - 590 x 304 x 42 (turned through 180 degrees vertically)



The Corsa Mk1 1.0 12v one looks ideal for it having the outlets on the same time and only needing two 90 degree bends and hose joiners to mate up with the OE pipes... but it only has a 25mm thick core but then it is 80mm wider than the one I have at the moment?