2l 16v with throttle bodies

has anyone done this to there mk3 gti?

what sort of power figures is it pushing?

 

won't make much difference unless the head/compression and the cams are done too.

t-bodies are quite expensive to get sorted out

however if you get over to www.designadubs.com they have a cunning way of doing it that'll save ya a few quid.

Badger5 do a really nice full kit but it's over 2k

 

As Prof says... not best suited on an otherwise std engine... expensive for minimal gains.

gas flowed head and cams first then you will really see some gains.

Bill

 

ok cheers guys, something like 264degree cams anygood?

any other things i could do instead? i still want realiability.

 

what are you using it for, road or track?

 

GVK has a stock 9a with kr cams and sets some mean lap times even with a very high geared box.
Good cheap solution

Cams will lose bottom end torque but give you more top end

I would start with a ported head and see how that goes

a 2.0 16v with decent head could easily give 175bhp+

 

thinking more in a heavy mk3 you dont want to lose any torque really, a lower final drive would make it feel a lot faster but be noisier on the motorway
Edited by: prof

 

You say that Ian but Claire's mk3 16v (168bhp at Stealth) is a match for my car on the road

I've been caught napping coming out of roundabouts before and had to pedal hard to catch up

I'd go for a ported head for a start on the ABF and then worry about cams depending what you use the car for.

If you're not worried about losing low-end torque get a pair of 276s in there (190bhp+ on a 2 litre 16v with ported head)

 

use the car for the road, its just my run around, i would like it to wipe the floor of 16v clios though.

 

yeah i dont particularly want to loose torque. after owning a td i know how good having torque is. plus i dont like screwing the engine at high revs all the time.

 

Go for very mild cams or even a set of KRs out of a mk2 16v with a ported head - should see about 175bhp

 

are the 1.8 and 2.0 parts interchangeable? sorry im new to golfs.

 

I've not had much to do with ABF ( tall block mk3 16v engine)

I've got KR 1800 cams in my 9A (corrado /Passat short block 2 litre 16v)

 

is the 9A the same lump thats in the ibiza 2.0 16v's ?

 

I thought they had ABFs the same as the mk3 - early ones might do... i'm not sure

 

cheers for your help fella. my uncle does engine remanufacturing for a job so ill get him to do the head and can try some kr 1800 cams at the same time

 

Let us know how you get on

 

right - Ibiza's had both the 9A and later on the ABF

ABF/9A/KR all use similar parts - the heads are from the same cast
the only difference between them are that the ABF uses different valve stem lengths from the other two, and the 9A/KR are identical apart from the port camshaft parts

Cams can be sw*pped between them no problem. If you have an ABF, dont bother with swapping the cams for any other standard VW items - they give the same results as KR cams, or near as dammit. The difference are in the duration and lift, and make little or no difference as they cancel each other out, one set having more lift, the other having more duration.

Biggest thing you can do on an ABF for ROAD use, is to have the head ported and then rechip it - speak to Vince at Stealth Racing if you need to chat with a 16V expert

Chris

 

I think 2L 16v Ibizas used only the ABF, the 1.8 16v is the same as in the mk2 Golf. The 2L 16v Ibiza didn't come out till late 96/97.

 

beware, vince had an ibiza (abf) on the rollers recently and said the lambda didnt like strong cams, maybe he was unlucky, but ended up with a set of 260's as the 268's where too much.

make of it what you will