yeah, I figured it was all hot air & having a laugh. But thought I'd post that up to prove the might of the almighty 8v!!! haha
OE 8v and 16v study coming up. Finally we will see which engine makes torque where and if some ideas are folklore or real. Keep posted
Pfft... Any engine can become "mighty" if you spend enough money to force, trap and process air to make work from combustion and channelled though the right means to propel you forward ( or backward). However the 8v vs 16v thing is just really banter. [strikethrough]All[/strikethrough] Many of us at some time drove these asthmatic NASP things until we moved on to more valves or more cylinders. Heck more valves/cly also brought superior engine control too sometimes as std .
haha. knew I'd get reaction from that. Thing is, all these blokes have poured BIG $$$$ into there engines & the 8v still came out above the 16V! End of the day, its always going to be hard to go past the tried & tested 2v per cyl. in anything. Just take a look at V8's. These quad cammed multi valved V8 engines still can't get near the sheer proven & very basic pushrod small block chev ,ford V8 or the new chev gen LS series engines. Especially when tuned NA or forced induction. My current daily driver is a LS series 6L ute with a cam kit & it makes 530hp comfortably & drives just like it was new. Only angrier at idle & when you put the foot down.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but have you got a timescale on this final verdict? On the edge of my seat here.
Why, oh why do people continually insist on putting wheelie-bars on FWD cars? Totally un-necessary ballast...
If you've never drag raced a fast FWD car, you'll never know! Basically to stop weight transfer to the back when accelerating, which unloads the front wheels. You want weight transfer on a RWD to shift the weight onto the back wheels & drive them into the ground increasing traction. FWD is the complete opposite. The wheelie bars are preloaded onto the ground to stop any weight shifting off the front wheels.
Yeah. I suppose it depends on the chassis setup & who tunes the chassis Some are preloaded & some aren't. You can see in the video that the car closest to camera has the bars that aren't preloaded & has a bit of give on launch. This is for serious FWD cars though. A good set of quality adjustable coilovers can make a huge difference to a FWD. Reports in the early days of FWD drag racing where a car was running low 14's with high mph & then fitted a set of full rebuildable & adjustable coilovers & the same car ran low 12's. This is where I'm positive that has made all the difference with my setup. Its not the most powerful car out there with roughly 220-230hp, but has ran a 12.9 & should run faster considering the mph its running & if I can the launch to be more consistant. Hence the auto build.
Fairplay, if they`re pre-loaded. (Never heard of it being done that way) I`ve seen loads where they were just considered de-riguer drag equipment with no real consideration of why they were using them... I`d still have thought uber-stiff/locked out rear suspension would be less of a weight penalty.
You'd think that & I thought the same way along time ago too. But locked out rear suspension with steel bars etc. ends up making the car too bouncy, especially when you launch, throwing the weight towards the back. With a proper setup suspension (with crazy heavy rate springs as most of them do) the weight transer can be soaked up, but with solid suspension it will bounce & inturn unload the front tyres. I dare say it would also be fair bit more scary at the top end too!
Bump Oh oh what's this, signs of the market crashing. http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239424
Bump! Take a look at this Danster mischief!! http://www.clubgti.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=239369 Keep voting folks
My 8v will be featuring in a youtube video after giving in to a hankering after a K6 Gixxer 1000 or a Clio 182. It'll be co starring with a 360 Komatsu coming to screens near you soon...
Now officially 'batting for the other side' http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=240460 If anyone wishes to alter their vote to 'Nay' what with these revelations, adjustments can be made on the thread
Stop stirring Chris....... Sir Danster has assured me that this was a temporary 'moment of madness' and that the 16v engine will be ostracized and that the car will be blessed with a wonderful 8v engine soon
I beg to differ. Now you run a mk1 with a 16v engine that was never normally fitted to that model of car. So changing engines is deemed as acceptable. Therefore when the 16v engine is removed from my newly purchased vehicle and retro fitted with a superior 8v unit, is there really any difference.
Stirring. Pfft! Purely for 'for the release of information' to the public at large! The 8AS must be made fully aware!
Oh rly!! http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2037375&postcount=4 Merely an evolutionly step A side issue!! Having a 16v at chez Danster is like having a body under the patio This is a matter for the 8AS!! Keep voting!!
That is not a VW production engine, so not normally found in a mk1. I will give you that 16v engines are great ........................ as they weigh more for scrap.
