Cheque book or Home made Show cars

I try and do everything myself, - including killing myself slowly with 2k
paint fumes. And the results show... all and sundry are welcome to
inspect the wide variety of drips, blotches, sags, dull areas and orange
peel on our Derby

Only decent TIG welding still escapes me... can't afford the kit yet [:^(]

 

anyone can get a loan (some have good paying jobs) and go to a company saying i want a nice shiney show car but i dont want to get my hands dirty please

not everyone can do all the bits them selves i cant paint or weld but i like to try and have a go even goin as far as goin to a college course to learn how to do it properly (still cant but i got a better clue now )

everyone has to learn somewhere its all about having a go yourself and learning as you go along my woman changed her rear lights her self because she wanted to learn ok its not rocket science but at least she was willing to try, love her

To make a home made show car your going to have to spend money on it at somepoint to buy parts and to fix things obviously but it dont make it a cheque book car do it!

 

From a show point of view, I respect the guys who toil away in their sheds to come up with new ideas and quality finishes. At the same time I think anyone prepared to spend 10K+ on a 15 year old car for someone else to do the work is still doing good service to dubbers. At the end of the day, some of the styling innovations created by Premier and other well known body shops inspire us all and thats a good thing. People whinge about the cars being trailered to the shows, well some of the cars are a work of art and who'd want a massive stone chip to detract from the wow factor?

 

You are missing the point of what an enthusiast really is.

Enjoying what you do on a personal level is what its all about. For some thats paying someone to make their car look nice, for others its doing the work yourself.

 

Wehn you see a show car, look for these things. Is it a "professional" finish, or a "personal" finish. For me, I can spot that added personal touch that only the owner can give, you can't pay for that leevl of detail, well, you can if you're amuppet with money to burn, but tha't's besides the point.

Like others have pointed out, there's nothing more boring than someone at a show who can't answer any questions about his car because he paid someone else to do it all.....I have no odea why these people are into the scene at all, other than for a bit of attention.

 

Hmmm, I'm all for the home-built creations but like already said there's some things that some people can't do due to lack of skills etc ie. painting, engine conversions etc and in these situations you have to go to the specialists........that doesn't constitute a 'cheque-book' car to me. That would be something like PVS last Mk2 where the owner just said build me this and even let them determine the colour, mods, wheels, trim choices?!

 

I lack lots of mechanical skill Paul, but could answer lots of technical questions about my car. If i paid someone to build a car for me, id be there every step of the way and all the choices for the car would be mine.

I do agree with the people that cant answer questions about their car, but if they enjoy it and it pleases others....whats the problem?

 

but thats just you most of these people dont

 

if you don't have the skills to build a car yourself then there is no harm in paying an expert to do it.

I'm fairly handy with a spanner, but someone like 800gs is way faster, I do lots of jobs myself, but can't wire in a 20vt etc.

So it makes sense for me to do what i'm good at, save up and get an expert to do the tricky stuff. We can't all be expert welders, sprayers etc, so it makes sense to get the experts in sometimes.

Would you do your own vasectomy, or take your own teeth out?

 

I bought my car almost exactly as it was at last years inters. A bit like several thousand people did with their brand new mk4 or whatever.

People asked me how the dash went in, or whatever, and I didnt know. Which was embarrasing. But I dont feel any less of an enthusiast for it, the way I see it I had to be to buy a car that was already modded that much, and cost that much at that age. Ultimately, whatever its history, it was the right car for me at that time so I bought it. It may have been someone else's ideas at that stage, and it still is in many repsects, but I liked what they had done, otherwise I wouldnt have bought it. And all the things that I didnt like, are gradually being changed, either by me or by someone else, to my spec.

The only thing I dont like is people paying someone to "build them a car" without actually specifying what they want. If the owner has decided on what needs to be done, then who cares how it was implemented or by whom? Its a bit different if they've just handed over a wad of cash and said "I want to win the concours at inters, do what you think necessary" - thats pointless (and a waste of money if you ask me).

end of the day if you know what you want, you do what you can to get it done. If youre not competent enough to do it yourself and you can afford to pay someone else to do it, then it makes sense to pay someone! it only becomes a cheque book car when you have had no input apart from signing the cheque (ie you just left it to someone else to build a car to their own spec using your money).

 

I would.....

 

I was thinking of you when i wrote it

 

I dont recomend it. I tacked myself back together once as I couldnt be bothered to go to casualty, and I can nearly extend my left index finger fully now (nearly 10 years later)...

 

I just cannot believe that the owner of that PVS car from last year had no creative input and didn't actually see the car finished until International.

I would have preferred it if PVS had built that car, then the guy had bought it off of them afterwards, but hell if I had the money to pay someone to build my dream Golf then I probably would.

p.s. even though I have done a lot on my car (namely all the stuff that has gone wrong) but my mate has done most of the work (me handing spanners to him etc.) what does my car come under seeing as I had to feed him McChicken Sandwiches, Stellas and the odd spliff.

 

that purple PVS car is a good example of a cheque book car, open cheque and no imput. no personal touches from the owner just what steve denton could dream up.

home built is giving most of it a go then getting the pros in to sort out spraying etc-i wouldn't want to F*ck that up if you get my drift, would be a waste of time.

 

you got that from doing your own vasectomy?

what, did it curl-up in pain

tt

 

yeah and all that work to a flipping 8v

 

Lol - I do my own stitches too - getting good at it now. Who can be arsed waiting four hours in a waiting room full of people as drunk as me, to let a junior doctor practice needlework on you? Get yerselves a nice curved needle and some suturing thread.......

 

Why do yourself what you can pay someone else to do for you....its why chequebooks were invented.
this is my opinion and im sticking to it.....its not cos i dont know one end of a spanner from another honest