I think I know the basic technique in doing these. But what's the point? And are there instructions as to how to do it? Because I heard they can make the car more stable when approaching a corner? Thanks Any help appreciated Jeff
its too bring the g/box speed upto engine speed. just use the end of foot on brake and rev with right side foot while cogging down and double de clutching. tried it in my mums rado,but cant reach throttle pedal. Edited by: riley
I reduces the jerky torque increase you get when changing down, eg when the wheels spin the engine up. If you are on 99% of your available grip on braking then it'll slow the wheel to point where it slips, chucking you in a bush if you're driving sensitive machinery (like me on wet roundabouts in my mates BMW e30) I use the left side of my right foot on the brake and just my little toe on the throttle pedal. not for the sake of speed, I just learned to drive on cars that stall as soon as you take your foot off. Edited by: jake
This was more important back in the days before synchromesh gearboxes, as you often needed to double declutch whilst braking.
i do it everytime i drive,cant help it has become habit and it sounds good too even in the 3i Edited by: riley
not really usefull unless youve lost the plot racing sum1 on road or if on track. but master it anyway,sounds good pulling upto lights etc.. Edited by: riley
its useful if youre driving on the edge or if your gearbox is fecked! I learnt it when my corrado's box was poorly. And yes its a hard habit to get out of. I've been driving an auto for most of the last 6 months and I still do it without thinking every time I drive a manual car!
Yes! your mounts and shafts will last longer and its definatly smoother for all concerned. Just dont practice it coming up to roundabouts or if anyone is infront of you.....
@ jeffin an auto=kangaroo.tis hard to stop once youve learnt it. i love it,in fact it should b included in driving tests! Edited by: riley
What is the difference between double declutch and heel and toe then? Both brings the engine up to speed.... Right? Thanks Jeff
double de clutch is where you rev with car in gear and with car in neutral.hence pressing clutch twice. toe and heel is just the procedure to rev whilst braking or to come out of a corner on the throttle quicker. Edited by: riley
Double de-clutching is different to heel and toe. Double de-clutching takes the gear box up to speed whereas heel and toe just makes the engine the right speed for the gearbox. Double de-clutching is done with the gearbox in neutral with the clutch out while heel an toe is done with the clutch down, which is still making use of the syncromesh gears, try heel and toe with a crash box (remember no fancy syncromesh here!!), it will make lots of bad noises and threaten to break your arm trying to shift into gear. Edited by: mr purple
lol thats how i learnt, it helps hang the back out on wet round abouts makes people think your car rear wheel drive
ok...my kinda question... having (relatively) mastered the technique myself with the help of silverstone race school i can tell you the advantages are huge when driving on track. firstly, it enables you to downshift earlier. secondly it reduces lock ups (especially helpful in RWD) it also allows you to slow down quiker as you are using the engine to help you stop. heres a site to tell you how its done... http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/howto/articles/45792/articl e.html if you have problems reaching the throttle you can do it like the pic halfway down this page... (also explains double clutcing - which i think it useless these days)
It's one of the things I need to do, Ian Carvell recommended I learnt how to do it to improve my track driving, I don't know if it's the pedal layout in a mk2 or the fact that I've got too much brake pedal travel but I find it near impossible to do [:^(] I get in cars at work and do it second nature, Pumas even those horrid Probes are pi55 easy to H+T .. But the Golf.. I struggle.
