My friend killed someone whilst drunk.

Discussion in 'General Vehicle Chat' started by pictonroad, Jul 5, 2004.

  1. superden Forum Addict

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    :clap:

    I couldnt have put it better myself.
     
  2. Dietrich Forum Member

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    I second the sentiment that the fact that he's a doctor plays no major part in the chain of events. Anybody could have called an ambulance. Would you want a drunk heart-surgeon to operate on you? Personally I'd suggest that drunk people aren't usually in a fit state to make decisions / take actions. Alcohol changes people, often for the worse.

    As Andy says, we don't know how much he'd had to drink, nor what happenned.

    The capacity to help shouldn't be held against you. Had he not been a doctor, he'd not have been able to help anyway.

    Ultimately what purpose will a prison sentence serve? In my opinion banning him from driving would make a bigger impression, but then in a society where people can change I guess that wouldn't be 'fair'.

    Either way, it's more than unfortunate for both parties involved. Let's just hope people can learn from it.

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  3. pictonroad Forum Member

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    Found out.

    He'd had a lot to drink and he drove into the other car at a junction then hit a house, he drives an A3 and hit a peugeout, the victim was thrown from the car (another lesson, seatbelt??)

    He then drove home and was arrested a few hours later, I presume, still over the limit or the DD charge would not have been levelled.

    Tw*t, as put so well, all for the price of a taxi and a parking ticket...
     
  4. Dietrich Forum Member

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    poo. [:s]

    Who was he out with? Didn't anybody realise he was getting into his car, drunk?

    I'd stick by him if I was you (I think). Just keep in mind he wasn't himself. :thumbd:

    Tom
     
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    no im not wrong he had the keys in his possesion so he in control of the car
     
  6. superden Forum Addict

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    Being in a car with the keys whilst intoxicated, irrespective of whether or not you have them in the ignition is classed as drunk in charge of a vehicle.
     
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    Wrong - Only if they can prove there was intent to drive :)

    No intent, no charge - you may remember my thread earlier this year when i was a witness for a mate ...
     
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    so if i read correctly - the driver/passenger of the other car was thrown from the vehicle, obviously not wearing a seatbelt.

    id be surprised if he gets charged with causing death, as by the sound of it a seatbelt possibly would have saved his life.

    for a fact your friends solicitor will hone in on that point all the way through the case.

    terrible news though, as you said, how on earth do you deal with such a situation.
     
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    My sympathies also go out to pictonroad.

    It is plain to see that this has been a very heavy blow to him, and a hell of a shock.

    Hope you're OK mate.
     
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    im new here, but its got me stunned. I feel for u man, and for youre mate but most important the family of the guy who past away [:s]
     
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    Not necessarily. If the impact was great enough to throw him from the car, then it would be great enough to cause severe chest/head/neck/limb/abdo injuries.
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    These incidents really bring the fact home that drink driving isn't acceptable. However I feel obviously the guy deserves a sentence but think about it he's not only having the prison sentence but a life sentence of him having that on his mind.
     
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    Thats true.

    But he gets no sympathy from me.

    Even when I`m totally blitzed I wouldnt dream of getting in a car and driving.

    No one made him do it.

    He did it of his own free will, drunk or not, and as a result his life is ruined and someone else has had their life taken needlessly.

    If you go out and intend to drive, leave the car and get a cab.

    Its not exactly hard to do this [xx(]
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  14. Mk2GolfBoy Forum Member

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    I totally agree however when there's such harsh sentences involved with cases like this and rightly so, theres just a little voice in the back of my head saying yes he's ruined someones life and the people who loved him but he has to live with the guilt, his life is ruinined too and for someone who lets say has never done anything wrong in his life, obviously an educated man who provides a brilliant service to society being a doctor has had everything taken away from him apart from being alive basically.

    Thats just my two cents and all that. By the way before someone jumps down my throat about what I just said I don't condone drink driving in any way or form. It's just wrong full stop.
     
  15. sife1 Forum Member

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    my condolances to the family,
    stupididy on his part.... lapse of sense with unfortunate circumstances, which as said, he will regret for the rest of his life.

    A lesson in life for all to take home
     
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    ...... and his family and his friends.....


    Sobering post is'nt it. [xx(]
     
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    Murder or Manslaughter is the same whether you're using a gun or a car and should be charged the same.
    Death by dangerous driving is an insult to society.
     
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    makes me so glad that I dont drink.

    The argument that 'he wasnt himself' and all that bullsh1t doesnt wash it for me. He made himself lose control of what he was doing, and made himself lose the ability to think straight by intoxicating himself with alcohol. Thats a fact. If he didnt drink the alcohol, he wouldnt be in the sh1t, and he would've acted normally (rationally) and he wouldve been able to legally drive his car.

    Everyone that thinks that they can use the 'I was intoxicated so that doesnt make it as bad' excuse in life for whatever they do wrong is full of sh1t. If you arent willing to pay the price for your misgivings (intoxicated or otherwise) then dont risk making yourself do stuff you wouldnt normally do. If you intoxicate yourself, it's your tuff sh1t if you mess up! Thats my view anyway.
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    Most shocking thread I've read on CGTI.

    Sympathies to all involved, especially the victim. I hate drink drivers.

    That said, I do feel some sympathy for the guy.

    As far as him being a Doctor is concerned, I believe that this will lead to him getting a heavier sentence and rightfully so. This is because he is seen to be of above average intelligence, his knowledge of the fact that accident victims can be helped by immediate care - and he chose to leave the scene, not even calling an ambulance, never mind putting his own specialist knowledge to use.

    I'd reckon 3 - 5 yrs for ordinary guy. This guy 5 - 8.

    Pictonroad - you have my sympathies mate - what a shocking and dreadful thing to happen. However, your mate will be heavily punished for a moments madness in a life otherwise filled by achievement. He needs his pals right now - you're one of them.
     
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    How did he manage to drive home after hitting all those things? His car would have been fukked.
     

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