PD diesels overrated

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  1. Matt82

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    at the ring i used half a tank in just over 100 miles, so for you to manage that on the road you must have seized brakes :p

    i can death (southern death) mine and still, without fail, ever, it will get 300 miles per tank, so compared to a pd130 (and comparing petrol/diesel prices) mine gives a pd130 a run for its money in terms of cost/fun

    in terms of pace i could throw a few hundred quid at mine and gain 5bhp. you could throw a few hundred quid at the pd130 and gain 50bhp

    absolutely loved my old audi though, some very fond memories
     
  2. azur Forum Member

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    you can definately get over 300 miles to a tank in the 16v. I was at uni in falmouth, cornwall. On my way back to sussex i would leave about 10 at night. I would fill up at the shell garage in carnon downs and do the 312.7 mile journey to my door averaging 75+ mph on one tank, and still have enough to drive to the local town the next day to fill up.

    For day to day driving, i think i got so-so fuel economy in the PD because the power is more accessible being lower down the revs... so I used it to its full every gear change. With the valver... i hardly ever go above 4000 rpm when im driving around normally so you can easily get 35+ mpg... and then when you want the power to get rid of an annoying rep on your tale or the local chav in his 106 gti you just drop it down a few gears and away you go.
     
  3. Matt82

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    my golf went from nurburg to saaaarfend on one tank. 410+miles
     
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    I can drain the tank of my GTI in little over 140 miles.
    And my brakes are just fine. ;)

    Round the 'ring is not so different from sweeping backroads where the engines revs are concerned - long periods up over 6000 RPM. Certainly for the roads around me.

    Hell, my 911 is more economical doing sub 9 minute laps of the ring than it is driving it into work! I get 18MPG out of that, at racetrack speeds/revs. I only get that on the road here...
     
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    how bigs the tank though? my A4 has a not to shabby 70 litre one :lol:
     
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    Hell fire!
    I'd struggle to get that from my Fabia.
     
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    Lol... you sure a few of the miles werent the english channel:lol:
     
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    I think I need to move darn sarf. Your fuel gives better MPG than our stuff.
     
  9. Matt82

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    those miles were on mfa and i ragged it for the final 80 miles from dover back to home.

    50 or 55 litre tank.
     
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    Done the math... 55 litre tank = a shade under 12 gallons

    at 70mph i get 35 mpg

    12 x 35 = 420 miles

    sounds like its do-able... just

    and matts geriatric engine seems to put out 40mpg

    maybe yours will get more economical in its old age glen! :lol:
     
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    I doubt it...
    The gearing seems to get lower, the cams lairier and the inlet holes more numerous...ahh well. Never mind.
     
  12. Matt82

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    typically mine will do 310-320 between fill ups and take 43-45 litres to brim it again.

    glen, if yours has pants mpg, ill agree to a temporary swap with mine ;)
     
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    That's a very kind offer...
    But, for all the miles I do in it...i'll live with the pants MPG.

    Besides, you'd have to come 'oop north' and help me re-build it before it could go anywhere...and you southern softies couldn't handle the Scottish winter!
     
  14. Matt82

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    mine regularly runs from cheshire to essex, thats about as far ooop north as i dare take it.

    whats the rebuild in aid of? mine is due another oil change, i want to pull my finger out and reconnect my catch tank back to the airbox and ill be happier again.
     
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    Various states of dissassembly for various upgrades!
    I have 6 or 7 'projects' on the go...
     
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    regarding the ABF enigine MPG, i actually remembered to zero the trip computer the last time i filled up- so far the passat has done 350 miles and still has just under a third of a tank left (bearing in mind its got a 70 litre tank)

    thats a mix of town and spirited a-road/motorway driving and i have a ported head on it . . . so the head dont seem to affect economy at all.

    and the cluster mpg seems pretty accurate- seeing as it doesnt have a vacuum feed going to the clocks and takes the data from the ecu i guess it accounts for the extra fuel at low revs it must put in to match the increased air flow?
     
  17. Matt82

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    the mfa mpg on mine is only ever out by about 0.2-0.4
     
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    have you ever had a head rebuild matt? boads well for my lump if yours is knocking out 170 horses and still going strong at 200k...
     
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    I picked my 2.0 back up from work last night, after 6 days in the mondeo! my god its good to be back in a proper smooth engine!! I had forgot how quick it was too when overtaking at 70 :lol:
     
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    the engine has never been had its head off. but ive seen an abf head for sale for 40... i wanna gas flow it [:^(] thatll only lead to trouble, i know it
     

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