burning relay issue!!

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  1. arnau Forum Member

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    hi. I have found a relay (a "normal" one: 87, 87a) that gets RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREALLY hot so I think it is why the whole fusebox gets hot.

    if I unplug it, then the air conditioning does not work, and neither does the radiator fan!



    and finally, I have found only an earth wire going from the fusebox to the chasis.. and this wire goes out of the relay I said 3 lines upper.
     
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    check the Z2 wire is plugged in round the back?
     
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    er..............Z2?

    I tried and find the corrado KR 1989 fusebox' rear wiring diagrams, but I wasn't able to find it in the forum :(

    Instead, I found post-90 :(
     
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    like i said in my pm to you, ALL corrados have the post-90 fusebox ;)
     
  5. arnau Forum Member

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    oh yes, I forgot, sorry.

    I have been having a look at corrado wiring diagrams and there is a wire going from fusebox Z2 (as you say :)) to the "-" of the battery.

    There is also another one going from the radiator cooling fan to the "-" battery.


    thank you very much, I hope my C won't set on fire...
     
  6. arnau Forum Member

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    hey, just another question:

    how can I trace a wire (i.e.) from the engine bay to the fusebox? I mean, since the firewall is in the middle, how can I know where a wire ends?
     
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    tricky, what you can do is make a extension wire for your multimeter probe, but its a pain.
    I would start by replacing the a/c relay with another, see if that helps at all. if not you need to look into the A/C & fan wiring to figure out why its getting so hot!
     
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    ok :)


    but I think it is strange that if I pull the relay which is attached on the upper section of the fusebox (looking at [​IMG] it would be sitting like in pos. 20 [:s] ), both A/C and radiator fans stop working....

    should'nt A/C relay be pos. 1??
     
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    I have borrowed (:)) a pic from this forum to show you some connectors I have in the back of my fusebox. You can see the blue ones on the following pic (the ones on the top):

    [​IMG]

    so, if you look at the following picture, where are these blue connectors supposed to be plugged in??:

    [​IMG]



    THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, I AM ''''''NEW'''''' TO electrical issues [:D]
     
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    relay sounds like it might be part of the fan control system, i beleive the a/c wont cut in unless the fans are on? whats the part number on this relay

    blue plugs from left to right:
    P, Q, R, U1 and U2
     
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    part number I can't remember, but I think it is like this one


    [​IMG]

    I just swapped it with the one I have for my uprated headlight loom (for low beam).




    how do you know they are P Q R U1 U2?
    I have many of these connectors in my fusebox... will this "characters" be written anywhere? I believe I have more than 5 connectors. thhankssssssssss
     
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    the back of the fusebox has the letters on there, in addition the plugs will only physically fit in the right spot!
     
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    ok, thanks.

    these plugs seem all the same in my car, and two of them had their wires burnt & black & carbonised :S


    does ce2 fusebox have only an earth wire (Z2)? hmmm only one??
     
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    oh, I have realised that the blue connectors only have one pin in my fusebox. iirc they are red wires
     
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    * I have, in the "cassettes hole" (I don't know if it was an option where you live), a voltmeter and an oil press gauge, connected through a relay (also a 87 87a) and installed by me. I have found that that relay ALSO gets hot.... which drives me to think that all of this heat is produced by nothing in particular, I mean, it might be a dodgy earth wire... but I checked Z2 wire in the back of the fusebox and it is correctly plugged. I have also found that this Z2 wire is really HARD on it's connection to the battery's negative. It is as hard as a stone... may it be causing all of this?


    thanks for looking...
     
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    Well, as I assume, these 4 (or 3) wires should be earthed. I only have two earthes from the fusebox: Z2 and an aftermarket one for A/C strange-positioned-relay, so I see I have 3 earth wires missing, or not earthed, or whatever.




    A2
    5 - brn - earth (location 120)

    G1
    5 - brn/wht- earth (cylinder head?)

    U2
    13- brn/wht - Dash plug pin 5 (earth & stalk memory switch pin 1)is this an earth?

    Z2- brn - battery negative
     
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    could anyone, please, touch their relays & fusebox when having been driving for about 1 or 1.5hrs? and then tell me if relays get warm(ish)? :( I'm desperate about this..
     
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    which ones mate? im sure some of mine get pretty warm
     
  19. arnau Forum Member

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    hmmm:


    positions:
    12 fuel pump
    10 fogs
    3 (or 4), the one that cuts some electrical elements when cranking.


    and some others, but the hottest one, is fuel pump.





    can you feel the heat on yourself sometimes? I mean, like when you are in front of a fire??
     
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    not that hot.. some of them are warm to the touch, thats abotu it. ill see if i can narrow down which ones it is
     

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