I have a contact in wolfsberg who told me the following..... "the 16v mk3 was a cynical marketing ploy aimed at buyers who read far too much into quoted bhp figures, but are too tight to buy a VR6."
i had the vtec rep from tokyo on the phone earlier. he hung up the moment i mentioned power delivery below 4.5krpm. hed love the 16v though, barely enough torque to move
this thread went wrong the moment the OP typed a golf being a sound investment? bwahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaq im hoping that my VW Ikea 2.0 16v abf powerhousen von fury will one day make me a miwionaire
yeah... but shame only one mk2 actually came with over 150bhp as standard so what you're saying doesn't really count tbh.... btw, read my previous post. a mk2 with 150bhp still isn't as quick as a mk3 vr6. i've driven tons of mk2's and a few mk1's and tbh they REALLY show their age these days, ropey as ****, rattley as ****, horrifically **** brakes (especially the mk1) and noisy (in a bad way). in terms of contemporary design, the leap from mk2 to mk3 was a ****in huge one tbh.
My mk2 with 180bhp was near dead on as quick as a vr. But as standard cars I spose they have no chance!
well, if you're comparing standard for standard....vr is gonna get ****ed on once they get to a corner my most recent mk2 had no rattles, and had good brakes....and it was o.e. and cost 100!
driving enjoyment?? mk2 with 180 or mk3 VR6??? only one winner even if it rattles and is noisy!!! can see your point though b'locks in terms of refinement a 93 plate MK3 is a million times better than a 92 plate mk2
too right. my mk2 is tip top, not a rattle in the entire car so mr mk3 vr6, youve either driven utter lemons or you need to sit down and give your mouth a chance to speak and at the end of it all, a vr6 has less than a 1/10 the torque an 8v has. fact
well ive been in MK4 golfs that feel like a bag of sh*t, its all down to the individual car and how its been looked after and driven so we shouldn't really go down that debate me thinks lol
well whilst were here, i think we should i hate the standard 20vt engine. i think the power delivery is gay as a box of frogs
only ever driven a 20vt in a TT in 225 spec.... seemed good to me, not driven a mk4... having a go in my mates S3 he has just bought on sat though so will have a different perspective
