Split: SLR lenses for track action

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  1. pascal77uk Paid Member Paid Member

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    How can i tell the difference and is the non panning model any good for motorsport type photos etc.

    God i didnt realise there are so many variations on these lenses
     
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    The ones with two modes have 2 IS switches... one marked ON and OFF and the other marked 1 and 2!

    I think we are getting sidetracked anyway!

    70-300mm IS canon will be more than adequate!

    If youve got the money... go for one of the 70-200 (the most expensive you can afford)
     
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    VR will help you get your subject sharp at the low shutter speeds needed for panning.
     
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    Aye - I take back my previous comments to a degree - posted on a photography forum and there have been a few whimpers of approval for VR/IS for panned work. While there are plenty of reviews on the web testing IS in static situations, I still can't find any that relate to panning though.

    Would be interesting to give it a try. FTAO of the OP, I think both the 70-300 and 70-200 have the facility to use IS during panning :)
     
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    Thought I'd chuck some images in here and add my 2p.

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    All shot with a 400D using either the kit 18-55mm or my 65 2nd hand Sigma 55-200.

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    Nice pics Honey! Are those last two from Combe last year??
     
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    I was their too nick! Probably saw you! (didnt realise that was you on flickr)

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    Couple of my favs from that day!

    Rich
     
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    That R8 was at Mallory when I went last year - very impressive!
     
  11. pascal77uk Paid Member Paid Member

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    Spot on Dex.

    Rather than wnaking off over a L series i bought a Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM lens to kick things off. Also got a hood and a few filters and a lens bag with it picked it all up for under 300 2nd hand in as new condition little use.

    Ive got 6K of parts to buy for the Audi this month and couldnt justify a blowing money on something i do not need as yet.

    Cheers for all your help
     
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    Some nice photos appearing on this thread :)

    Excellent - genuinely think this is the best explanation I've ever seen of the progress of the amateur photographer :lol:

    Good stuff - looking forward to some examples of what you can do with it ;)
     
  13. pascal77uk Paid Member Paid Member

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    Cheers Mike. Im looking forward too.

    Just got the missus running naked across the garden testing it out. All good so far. Got some great background blurring on the go.

    Cheers for everyones help.

    This is just the standard lens, but loving what the camera can do already and so much to learn cant wait. Thinking about doing a course to get my head round everything

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    What car is that Pascal?
     
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    Looks like he spent so much on his lens that he can't afford any tyres! ;)
     
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    Is it an A4?
     
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    Will read that later..... I'm thinking of getting an b5 s4... But they are few a far between especially in nogaro blue!!
     
  19. pascal77uk Paid Member Paid Member

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    Bump for new lens

    Well im back on this one now.

    I sold my 70-300 to help fund my 5D Mk1. Had some great use out of it but not really at the race track. I used it more when traveling in Morocco! Every time I’m at a circuit I’m usually racing myself and don’t get the time to get the camera out. But after a visit to Brands yesterday to see a friend race, i fancy getting more into it. I took the 5D with me and a 24-105 L lens as that’s all i’ve got left now apart from the 50mm f1.4. Also sold the 17-40L to fund the buy. So have a bit of a empty bag[:^(]


    I haven’t had much of a chance to use the new camera yet as I’ve been so busy work wise. The 5D is a big step up from the 1000D. It took me a while to get used to it but feel comfortable with it now. I also learned a lot technically and have done lot of reading and researching about photography in general and have a greater understanding of the whole subject.:thumbup: But still masses to learn.

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    Any thoughts on the photo be appreciated.

    Rich i thought your photos posted were spot on:thumbup: really liked them


    While at the track i saw a number of cannon users with all manner of lenses. From 28-300 L to 100-400 L and 70-200 L. And a few monsters which i walked past very gingerly :lol:

    I would like to get results like the pro's. Like a lot of things it’s all in the glass and technique of course. When i bought the 70-300 i was not ready for a L lens but now i think i can justify it as my photography has moved on and would get good use out of.

    Everyone on here has been extremely helpful in all my purchases over the last few years and like to call on everyone’s advice again.

    As always I’d like to do it on a budget, not over spend and not buy anything OTT. When i bought the 5D i picked up a fantastic bargain. It was owned by a pro who used it as his second camera and was as good as new with under 5k actuations.

    Even though i like to buy new! My pockets can’t afford it and with some hunting around the second hand market can be a good one, nearly as good as new. So I’m leaning towards this again, also when it comes time to sell usually you can sell it for the same as you paid for it.

    Also I would like to be able to double use the lens. I know the 70-200's are used for portraits quite often and worth having in the bag. But also the 28-300 could superseded my 24-105 possibly which could allow me to sell this and put towards it. But would it be too much to have on the body all the time? weight size etc?

    I have been offered a Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 is MK II by the pro who sold me the 5D and he said he would do me a good price on it. I’m tempted with this as the 5d was in such good condition and the lens would be of the same ilk. He is gradually changing over to a Nikon and not sure when i will be offered it. But there is a possibility of a bargain there.


    So options
    Canon EF 70-200 f4
    Canon EF 70-200 f4 is
    Canon EF 70-200 f2.8
    Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 is Mk I
    Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 is MK II
    Canon EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6L IS
    Canon: EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM

    Anything else would be to specialist i think and expensive but any others please mention. I would like stay Canon rather than a alternative like Sigma etc

    All thougts, info, pointers, direction would be greatly appriciated.

    Thanks Guy's:thumbup:
     
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    I see the L-fever is taking hold :lol:

    From the posted photo it looks like you're getting the hang of it - the car is nice and sharp and you have some decent motion blur. A slower shutter speed would be good to get even more blur and separation, although we all know how much harder it gets to keep pics sharp when reducing shutter speed. I'd also open the composition up a bit by leaving some more space around (and mosty infront of) the car :thumbup:

    All the lenses you list are very capable; I'd be extremely tempted to go for the 70-200 mkII if you can get it for a good price; while it won't have the reach of the longer two it's an excellent lens and will be far more useful for other (non-motorsport) subjects. I think the majority of panned shots should be within the focal length range of the 70-200 anyway, and if you found you needed more reach you could always add a teleconvertor..
     

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