Starting Problem - Lack of Power?

Discussion in 'Engines' started by dan_1987, Sep 1, 2007.

  1. dan_1987

    dan_1987 Forum Member

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    Is there anyway I can get all the ETKA illustrations? Has someone got an electronic copy or something?
     
  2. Richardshoes Forum Member

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    www.torrentscan.com

    Search for ETKA. Make sure you have client. ie Azureus or something. then download the torrent. What operating system are you running?
     
  3. Setone Forum Member

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    you do need to support the engine, as it will rock forward a little, just us some wood and a trolley jack under the sump
     
  4. dan_1987

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    I have Windows & Mac. I use bitcomet for my Windows so will use that.



    Once again, Haynes lets me down. I'll tear the pages out and use it to wipe my a*** instead. :)
     
  5. dan_1987

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    Just thought I'd update you on the problem. After changing the starter motor, the problem still occurs, so I have used Setone's help and replaced some of the wiring which seems to have sorted it.

    Thanks Setone!
     
  6. dan_1987

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    Ok, the problem isn't quite sorted. The only wire I have replaced is the main battery (+ve) to starter. Its certainly helped it a lot, but occasionally it still struggles to turn.

    I have also cleaned the main earth at all three connections. Can anyone explain what the alternator-to-starter wire does? I will probably change it anyway, as I have spare wire.

    Thanks.
     
  7. dan_1987

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    And here's a pic of the replacement starter and tidy wiring.

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    Anyone know what other wires could cause the slight starter motor stutter?
    I've cleaned the main battery-chassis-gearbox earth. What other earths are there, that could require cleaning?
     
  8. Richardshoes Forum Member

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    A weak or partially discharged battery would cause the starter motor to struggle.
     
  9. nealey Forum Junkie

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    did you get the bottom starter motor bolt in ok as it runs through the engine mount and thats why you need to support the engine
     
  10. dan_1987

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    Yes thanks. I used my *new* trolley jack and two short planks of wood to support the engine under the sump. Worked a treat!

    I've fitted a new alternator (week or two before the starter) so the battery should be charging well. I'm planning on buying a multimeter at some point, so I can test the battery. Do I just put the multimeter terminals on +ve and -ve to check it?

    What should its voltage be, engine off and on?
     
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  12. Jay 16V Forum Member

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    I had the same prob , and did the same things as you , ie , new wires and terminals to no great affect , i changed the battery and its never done it again?. Its worth a go??. Good luck
     
  13. dan_1987

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    Thanks Jay. I must stress that I have replaced the battery-to-starter wire, and this has solved the main problem. It's only sometimes that the starter motor still slows during turning over.

    The battery is relatively new I think. I'll check the receipt. I could be wrong, and it could be a few years old.

    Richard, thanks for the link. Looks very useful! Will first buy myself a multimeter and check out the battery power.
     
  14. dan_1987

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    Just checked the receipt for the battery. It's not even two years old yet (Bought Dec 05). It's a GSF one that the previous owner must have fitted.

    The problem is still occuring. Not quite as bad as before, but its annoying. Even happens straight after a drive when I restart the engine. Would a battery of that age struggle to hold charge, even straight after a drive? (Note: Brand new alternator recently fitted)
     
  15. paul_c Forum Member

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    Disconnect the coil and see how the engine spins over, then let me know how this goes.
     
  16. dan_1987

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    Coil being the ignition coil? Hard does this work exactly?

    I'll give it a go tomorrow if I can.
     
  17. paul_c Forum Member

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    It works by windings of differnt number of turns being in electromagnetic proximity to each other, but that's not important.

    Yes, disconnect the ignition coil.
     
  18. dan_1987

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    Right, I think I need to raise this thread again as I'm still having problems.

    I've replaced the battery, alternator, starter motor (used) and battery-to-starter wire. I've cleaned the earth, starter motor and alternator connections and copper greased them all.

    The engine starts fine when warm but if cold, I still sometimes get a delay between turning the key and the engine turning over.

    Any idea's?
     
  19. paul_c Forum Member

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    Sounds like ignition switch faulty.
     
  20. dan_1987

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    Would this be faulty when cold?

    It sometimes (but rarely) does it when warm too, but its common when cold. The engine will turn for a split second, then delay, then turn as normal.
     

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