Budget tyres should be banned

So you finally agree that Vredesteins have superior grip, otherwise you wouldn't say it would turn over, surely a vehicle would be more prone to rolling if it's lateral inertia, above it's roll center, cannot overcome the tyre's adhesion?

Disclaimer. I ackowledge that this is b**s**t

 

Was thinking it was more likely to end on its roof once it had understeered through the hedge into the ditch and bounced out the other side



give in, you know you're wrong

 

i use the pirelli p6000,s on my mk2 great in the dry but when its wet its o so scary . can any1 here sugest a good all round tyre that i wont have to sell my mk1 to buy ????

 

F1's best road tyre i know of

 

YES, ignore what this lot say, read the Autoexpress test & buy the Vredesteins

 

true story

even on Fiats

 

Never, bring on the horse's head

 

Most new car handbooks advise you to `bed in` new tyres by avoiding excessive acceleration and braking ... `scrubbing in` ? for a certain mileage. This also helps to `bed in` new brakes etc..

My current car`s states:

New tyres do not achieve their full road grip immediately, for production reasons. You should therefore drive in a restrained manner for the first 200 miles.

It also says:

Certain makes of tyre are recommended by `the manufacturer` for each tyre size. These can be identified by the clearly visible `manufacturer` designation on the sidewall of the tyre.

 

What sort of milage do these tyres do compared to each other?

 

update. the cheapo tyres are a LOT better in the dry than they were in the wet, still pap though, and still understeers then oversteers.

so, don't fit cheap tyres if it's wet. and if you do want cheap tyres, then keep well away from me for one, but also give them a good thrash in the dry to scrub them in.

 

i do loads of motorway and got 20k out of the last set of F1s on a 220bhp fwd car

 

I seem to remember mine lasted quite well (as tyres go for me) blistered one at a track day but they are the best road tyre I’ve tried that is still available, I’d put the old Bridgestone S02 (no longer available) above them generally but the F1’s had the edge in extremely wet conditions


Buy them, you won’t be disappointed

 

my paradas are on 14k miles now... ive got about 4mm left

 

I had Falken 452 on my MK3 and loved them, superb grip in the dry and still great grip in the wet.

My Mk4 came with conti eco 3's or somthing like that, they squealed like pigs but sure did grip well in all weathers. Although coming up to my MOT i was skint so my dad arranged to get some rubber fitted. I didn't bother asking what he was requesting as I thought he would get contis put on.

But no he goes for the same rubbish he uses, Runways! They were utter ****e in what ever weather, no wonder he didn't have enough grip to pull me out a ditch last night in the wet. I could of killed my self several times over with those tyres, didn't trust them at all in the wet, i was spinning until 3rd!

My new wheels came with some dunlop sp9000's on, they sure are expensive rubber but for good reason, there fantastic! Only time I can un stick them is going too hard in the wet while there still cold.

 

you ended up in a ditch? :S

 

well side of....check out the oops area.

not much can grip on leaf mulch.

 

? ?

 

That will do nicely.

 

Here's a question for some:

If you were driving the same car but:

1) Was wearing say standard skinny steel wheels (13x5) but using ordinary Pierlli's or Dunlops

or

2) The same car but with much wider wheels alloys (Say 15x7) featuring a budget tyre such as Wanli/Nankang

Which would you rather be in control with?

 

Skinny tyres!

loads of squeel and predictable handling. But I would get everywhere a little slower