If VAG didn't exist...

Discussion in 'General Vehicle Chat' started by luke w, Jan 8, 2008.

  1. Matt82

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    unless he was expecting a 'miles per' after 17.5?
     
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    25!?
    Sounds implausible. Try more like 35mpg if talking about average runs?
     
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    My car does 20-25 at best at 255Bhp on a Audi A3 chassis.

    Mixed driving seems about 25mpg on average if you look at the "how many mpg" on the forums.

    Mind, thats for the Mk4 and not the Mk5 which I would assume to be more fuel efficient given the larger displacement engine combined with modern technology.


    Regardless, lets compare total cost of ownership over 5 years for GTI vs Shelby.

    27K purchase, plus 400 a year insurance, plus fuel as above at 50K miles (10k per year), plus lets say 3K servicing for the Ford (independant as no main dealers want to know). Plus tax and incidentals. (bear in mind parts are cheap as chips as the engine is used in EVERYTHING in the USA so lots of parts importers over here)

    Compared to the VW, 27K purchase, fuel as above, tax and incidentals, servicing on the 5 year fixed schedule is instantly 1K more.

    So all in all, they end up being similar in terms of costs over 5 years.

    But, take into account resale, a 5 year old Golf GTI based on todays 5 year old Golfs will be worth 12-15K.

    A 5 year old Shelby will fetch 25K easily given that UK importers charge so much for them new and brought over.

    So you are already onto a winner as the extra costs of the running of the Ford are cancelled out by the massive additional resale value.

    Thing is, thats for the top of the line, personally signed Carroll Shelby GT500 with everything.

    If you want a Ford badged Mustang with the same engine (not SVT) you are talking closer to 17K English as purchase cost.

    I can only think the main reason people dont do this is because the cars are left hand drive.

    Or maybe its the reason websites like moneysavingexpert exist, people are simply too lazy to consider options that may save them money but cost them initial time researching.
     
  4. mark25 Forum Junkie

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    21 U.S. MPG (3.78 Liters) = 25.2 U.K MPG (4.54 Liters) In my book.....
     
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    [SIZE=+1]1 US gallon = 0.832673844 Imperial gallons
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    according to google convert.

    So 21 US gallons equals 17.48 imperial gallons.
     
  6. mark25 Forum Junkie

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    See where the confusion is creeping in yet?
     
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    No? says the same thing to me. im not very good at maths but....
     
  8. mark25 Forum Junkie

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    You are not alone.
     
  9. bula_82 Forum Junkie

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    Care to explain where your confused?

    Maybe then it can be explained...
     
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    Well, I didnt add up the figures, I typed in "convert 21 us gallons to UK gallons" in google, which does its figures.

    But it does add up, 0.8xxxxx multiplied by 21 equals 17.48

    Unless google has its UK and US gallons figures mixed up, I can't see the mistake in that statement.
     
  11. Matt82

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    just friggin correct us if you see an error, im sure no one will be upset and we will all call you a hero afterwards lol
     
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    That's OK, but if a US Gallon is 0.8x a UK Gallon, the UK Gallon is BIGGER, meaning more than 21 MPukG. So again, as in earlier post:

    4.54 L/3.78 L = 0.8 then 1/0.8 = 1.2 then 1.2 x 21 = 25.2 MPukG not 17 MPG:lol:
     
  13. mark25 Forum Junkie

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    see above post, beat you to it.
     
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    Or even before.
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    I did that in a much earlier post, but instead of reading my post, people decided to get up each others rears (Dave this, Dave that[xx(] ) and post in a generally arrogant manner....
     
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    Right, I see the confusion.

    However, I was assuming all calculations based on a fixed size gas tank.

    UK gallons are bigger than US gallons.

    Therefore, per fixed size tank, LESS UK gallons fit.

    Kinda make sense?
     
  17. mark25 Forum Junkie

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    I think we'll leave it, you've lost me.
     
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    I hereby blame google convert.

    go convert 21 US gallons to UK gallons using google.

    Then come back to me.
     
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    OK, now I understand.

    So actually, my sums are wrong so that it is actually CHEAPER to run than I said.

    So the running costs are less than I calculated.

    So why the big commotion, just correct me and get on with your life....
     
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    Wouldn't be CGTI without it, would it!:lol:
     

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