Big Fast Cars

From Post25:

Not disrespect, but undeniably reality.

Don't loose sight of the point here - it's not about the mk2's repuation.

 

A mk2's reptuation, how dare you tarnish the lords name

I had a bugatti trying to race me today, I popped into second as was off like a shot

 

Hope it was a Veyron!

 

my mk2 only races fighter jets nowadays!!!

 

It's totally OT - but one thing I can't accept is that MK2 golf's are good VFM - they are woefully over priced as an "all round car"

 

if mk2's were woefully overpriced for all-rounders then why was it throughout the world they was a massive success?? i'm sure i read somewhere that they they sold the single most units within a certain period than any other car!!! they even beat the org mini count which had 4mill+ units - over 40+yrs!!!

and i dont mean single most units ever (so dont start coming out with names like bettle, model T, etc - these made their numbers over a few decades ). the mk2 golf made its sales figures over around 1 single decade!!!!

when i mention good all-rounders, yes there were cheaper cars which were "the same catergory", but where are they now over 15yrs later?? in the scrappies ages ago!!! thats why when you see a xr3i, astra gte, pug 205 or an r5 turbo on the road, you give it some respect because they so rare now!!! whereas theres still plenty of mk2's in all guises on the roads representing the vw quality - some are even everyday cars racking up mega miles!!!

then theres cars like saabs, mercs, volvos, audis or bmws, which in my opinion are also high quality cars, but their owners, throughout the ownerships, must've forked out lots more, on routine car costs!!!

so now the balls back in you court!!! do you have any examples of good all-rounders that wont be effected by the above???

 

i love the internet ha ha

 

Please re-read the quote. Mk2 Golfs ARE over-priced as all rounders, not WERE over-priced.

For the same price as a fairly high mileage 15-20 year old golf you can buy a similar mileage 10 year old car that is faster, handles better, feels much more modern to drive, is quieter on the motorway, more comfortable, with more mod cons. To me those are the things that matter in an
"all round car".

You know VW Blinkers are a terrible thing...

 

the reason why mk2's are commanding that kinda money NOW is they're NOW made their mark in motoring history as did the mk1's. imo mk1's are still THE most sought after (and you could probably get a 5yr old low mile motor for the same price as one of them), but that dont mean they're also overpriced - just that they're more in-demand, so command those prices!!! as i mentioned, used to own a few of mk1 escorts (a mex, 1300E, and done up xl), today them cars will fetch as much money as s/h M3's which can blow the sock off them, and are more comfortable, reliable etc. but people still go mad for em so their prices are shooting up!!!

probably are more newer quicker cars out there that'll fetch as much as a mk2!! but mk2's are going up in vaue now so if you have a gooddun, keep it for a while!!! over time they'll be worth more than if you got rid and brought "the more reliable mordern thing".

theres plenty of people out there with the same view as your "vw blinkers" thing!! who drive around in regular modern stuff!! i aint knocking the modern stuff that can be brought for the same price as a good mk2, but at the end of the day, those people just want workhorses first!!! if that was my priority, i wouldn't be enthusiastic over cars, therefore wouldn't really be joining a forum "for gti nutters, by gti nutters" - i do respect other cars but with my vw blinkers on, they either made as much an impact as gti's did, or they're genuinely better cars, not no everyday leave-it-anywhere workhorse!!!

 

Well the last few cars i've owned are Lagunas, Vectras and Mondeos all less than 8yrs old. Even at that age they were starting to feel old and tired, trims fallen off, springs braking, head gaskets going and prices dropping like a stone. Not one of these cars meets the build quality of the mk Golf. All the original trims are still firmly attached to the car, the paint looks as good as the day it came off the production line, the doors shut with a thud that is still only common with more expensive cars of today. The Mk2 Golf GTI is still a failry fast car and it turns a lot of heads, i even had someone stick their thumbs up at me yesterday in approval!

Ask anybody down the local pub what they think of the mk2 Golf GTI and they will tell you its a well built fast car, which is just as fast as most modern day hot hatches. Not an aging family car, lets face it anyone with that sort of view really don't know much about cars at all.

 

Well i have been into VW's and driving VW's for 15 years now,and i have to say i have driven brand new big vw audi's cars and you then go into a 10+ year old vw and they are like an old banger slow drink fuel like a fish and yeah lite in weight due to all the rust and rot ;o) but hey i still have a rust bucket 27 year old mk1 golf gti for fast road and track use ;o)

 

Of course, and you're the latest newbie know it all then?

 

So what if i'm a newbie, what does that have to do with it? Just because you've posted 15 odd thousand messages doesn't mean you know what your talking about. I've been in the motor trade for 9 years and have driven hundreds of different vehicles from a Skoda Felicia to a Ferrari Spyder. When it comes to vehicles and the motor trade i know what i'm talking about, but looking at your posts i'm not quite so sure about you.

 

*Get's some popcorn*

 

It has everything to do with it and your comments show it.
Those beyond newbie stage no better to research those they decide to affront on here.
You quite clearly have not, as shown with your next comment:

Aphex's own post above shows he anticpates the reaction your newbie post will envoke.

My post count also is irrelevant to this matter - where does it say it is? There's people on here with less than a few thousand posts who have the knowledge you can only dream of.

And incidentally, anything less than 10yrs is simply the start of a motor trade career - so you're not impressing anyone.

Do yourself a favour - find out who you're dealing with, and save yourself any further embarrassment.

 

This thread is gay.

Seraph, he may know what he's on about.

Spawn, Seraph may also know what he's on about.

So in conclusion, stop waving your penis' about and forget it. I and many others can see this thread is going nowhere.

You both seem like alright chaps, so no need to both come across like eejits arguing about this.

 

Jonny, you'll note by referring back, that I haven't any any point inferred anyone doesn't know they don't know what they're on about.
I wouldn't do that about someone I don't know anything about. It would be pointless.

Note also that it says alot about a poster who has to mention he knows what he talks about.

This has also turned into a classic cgti thread - completely off topic. So I agree with you - it's going nowhere. By that wasn't by my intervention.
This is about a classic topic in itself - driver's perception of others racing them.

I don't consider this an argument either - is it? Isn't/wasn't it a debate.

 

Back to the thread.....

Once on the way home from a client I was coming down a sliproad giving it some stick when I knew there was an MTM B5 RS4 estate infront of me that I was catching up with 'he was doing something like 40-50mph' then he gave it some stick.

A big shot of soot came out of the twin pipes and the car surged forward faster than anything i've ever seen. It powered so hard you could see the car lift up so much and the car shake side to side under the hard powering! Never knew have rapid a family estate could ever be! I've seen some ferrari's shift quickly but this thing was accelerating at warp speed!

 

And I'm certain Gman, you'd be the first to say, this wasn't because he thought he was in threat of being embarrassed by your diesel Seat?
For all we know, he/she may have been late for a meeting, or dinner, or need the toilet, surely?.....

 

PMSL

Yeah his monster estate was in threat! I mean my 1.4 3cyl derv would have easily kept up with his RS4!

The thing is he waited for me (or could have been any car) to catch up with him as he was doing 40-50mph down the slip road then booted it about 20m before the end of the joining strip to some crazy speeds directly to the outside lane before having to slow down

He was definately showing off, i mean why cruise so slowly down the slip road waiting till the last 20m's until you have to join the motorway? Either way I was very impressed how rapid such a big family car can be!